Adair Classic tracks

[mudbug3]

Economical 17" Adair Classic Tracks from the leaders in amphibious track design.

Lightweight and Highest performance (classic track) design at an exceptional value.

http://www.adairargosales.com/index.php/tracks/classic

[plott hound]

now were getting to the affordable price.

[mudbug3]

This is really good news for those forum member who want a more affordable Adair track. Because the belts extends farther down the sides of the tires, this also gives you gear reduction as well, which is a great feature of the Adair Classic tracks.

[Cruiser812]

Anyone running the classic adair tracks?

[Bud]

The spacing between lugs looks like they would really bite and dig in well in deep mud, as well as be self cleaning.

[foxvalley]

I got a first hand look at the classic tracks at Tims a few weeks ago, and was very impressed,this is a great track for someone who doesn't want to spend more on tracks than their machine, but wants the same preformance as the more expensive tracks.

[Aztoak]

I am in the market for tracks. After all I have read here, I am now trying to decide which Adair tracks I want. I really like the looks of the classic tracks. The design looks like it would be very hard to throw a track. It looks like it may side hill better. Another nice thing is that they don't need spacers. One disadvantage I see is that I don't see an upgrade option for a snow widener, but maybe that doesn't make sense with his style of track. I would like to see a side by side comparison of Adair classic, pro and wide in deep sticky mud and snow.

[thorn]

I am in the market for tracks. After all I have read here, I am now trying to decide which Adair tracks I want. I really like the looks of the classic tracks. The design looks like it would be very hard to throw a track. It looks like it may side hill better. Another nice thing is that they don't need spacers. One disadvantage I see is that I don't see an upgrade option for a snow widener, but maybe that doesn't make sense with his style of track. I would like to see a side by side comparison of Adair classic, pro and wide in deep sticky mud and snow.

I have been emailing Adair about these with the extended snow track and cleats. They told me that that snow extension would work on them, but it would not engage until you were in deep snow. They said they have never used their winter kit on them though. That is they same set up Escargo does with their winter kit. I like the idea of the big ice cleats not making contact in the hard pack. They did tell me that they do recommend using tuners because of chain wind up, which means spacers.

[Aztoak]

If I had to use tuners, that would tend to steer me towards another route. I thought i had read that adairs didn't really load up, but that may be the pros.

[Buzz]

that's the biggest misconception out there.....that if you need track-tuners then that track "isn't a very good idea and is hard on your machine." All machines require to set up your tire sizes so multiple tires "overdrive" the track to keep the chains properly loaded and to prevent the track itself from causing certain tires to rotate faster than they should via proper chain-power-transfer. All tracks require a certain amount of "scrubbing" for this to happen, which robs horsepower. Some more than others, and some tracks even are not very compliant to the tires slipping period.

Anyhow, an elevated belt track gives the option to run wider belts but skid-turns easier than a track even narrower than your tires, gear reduction, and high resistance to falling off (the biggest attribute). It does benefit greatly (power wise) to install track-tuners on this style track, but the other attributes make it.....depending on your conditions and vehicle weight or cargo-loads.....almost a mandatory design to operate acceptably. That's the main reason I've been playing around with that design. It simply works. There are ways to make it better. Track tuners are a simple design that simply help improve...not fix any problems. Adair's classic track should use tuners (and spacers). Without a doubt. I wish Adair would put more emphasis on developing a better version of that track. Makes me wonder why they don't...

[Noel Woods]

I really disagree with Buzz's comment above. The Adair guys are extremely innovative in their design and product development, as well as taking great pride in their product. They have continuously improved the product over the years, and their tracks have evolved greatly as a result.

There is no one style of track that is perfect for all machines in all conditions. That's why Adair has several versions out there. They can tune for specific needs to cater for unique conditions and driveline specific demands.

I really wish that forum members would play by the rules and limit self-promotion, especially when its at the expense of others. I'm happy that Buzz has got a product out there and that there is a demand for his product. I wish him success. The bottom line is to play fair and not disparage the Adair guys who are playing by the forum rules.

[Buzz]

Noel, I can only wish you would see my point. I appreciate innovation, geez. Adair has been great everytime I've need anything. I am trying to "encourage" more time/effort into their "classic" style track. It seems to me it's put down at the bottom of the list, which seems strange. I don't understand why more testing/improvement of that design....on their end, in one fashion or another....is not done. Escpecially on the traction side. Instead it's marketed as budget bottom of the barrel, which seems crazy if you really understand how tracks work. I'm actually trying to throw them a bone prior to more and more people realizing how well that design works. Do a few things to make the design work the best, it's ultra reliable and actually works where others don't or have problems. Sometimes it's okay to improve an existing design that's proven instead of push something that's easy to make/assemble and apply traction devices to. If adair wants to build a similar track, I understand they're more than capable of doing it. People need to understand what works, at least up here though if they're going to pay to ship a set of tracks up here. Information and testing is what it's all about. Then I encourage people to take note, that's all. It seems if anyone starts playing around with tracks on here.........the shields come up. Lets all share ideas. People always decide what they're willing to do for labor on their own project, or what they're willing to pay for someone else to do it.

[plott hound]

if our pce of crap canadian dollar had not tanked,there would be a brand new set of classic tracks on my conquest.maybe i can wait for a scratch and dent sale.lol

[tattooman]

I am very happy with the tracks that tim and mike supplied me with. I strongly feel that I got a great track for the money! My little max ll had the monster brought out in her! I am thankful for a great product and for the people that sold them to me. I thank them for their time!

[Old Tucker]

Buzz You are right. Its far better if we could all share some ideas. Out of that we can all grow. No track is perfect for all its intended use. And all conditions very so much. All we can hope for is to find a track that will suit (OUR) intended use. I cannot thank Tim and Mike enough the help for the help they have given me over the last year on parts.
As you all know, we all try to improve the performance of our toys. Its never ending.
Sadly our $ sucks when it comes to buying parts parts south of the border.