Adair pro series vs Escargo hybrid tracks

[radar]

Has anyone had a opportunity to use both of these tracks ?
How do they compare in mud snow hill climbing and not walking
out of the track ? Thanks for any info

[Buzz]

yes.....more to follow

[eers2ya]

Ok lol

[Buzz]

It's not a question of strictly adair pro-series vs escargo hybrid- since you bumped the thread "eers2ya."
After a lot of testing, my preferred track style for Alaskan conditions, uses, and loads (by far), is an elevated-belt track where every single grouser has agressive traction. I prefer all-steel, although plastic versions can be made that have traction enhancers as part of the design. Every grouser needs traction for the best performance. Cost, grouser-tub clearances, and track weight are all factors for a buyer to consider. I've always felt that a wider wheelbase and wider track improves performance dramatically when the going gets really bad. Using track tuners is also a very good thing. No tracks actually "require" track tuners. But, all tracks benefit from tuners, some simply don't need a wheel spacer so it's counter-intuitive to use a tuner (a track tuner is really just a 2.5" free-wheeling wheel spacer). The center tires are going to slip, and you're going to give away a bit of power (all tracks require indexing and this slipping will happen). The ratio or ease of slipping is more on some tracks than others, but when you can eliminate 100% of the slipping requirements from the center tires..it is a big advantage in reduced load on center chains, bearings, axles, fuel economy, and engine temps. These machines are geared low enough and have a CVT clutch that also adjust for load, so the slipping can happen fairly easily. Most people aren't going to notice the benefits of tuners with all track styles, but they certainly do help.
There are several ways to accomplish getting an elevated belt-track with aggressive traction- escargo (the original timmins ontario shaped grouser), steel channel tracks, plastic with added traction enhancers. I've played with a few other variations on this theme as well. Some are easier than others to make swim well too. I'm always happy to give my take on the other benefits of elevated-belt tracks if you need more info..since you bumped the thread. They're pretty ideal for how skid-steer over-the-tire tracks need to work in a variety of conditions.
Where do you live "eers2ya"?

[jpswift1]

[Buzz]

naah, we should more or less be over the can of worms I hope The best thing to do is talk to others that are in your neck of the woods. Similar machines, similar conditions that you might see, and similar objectives in how they use their machine and what they need it to do. Then, you'll have an idea of what might work for you. Merry Christmas to all!

[jpswift1]

Good point Buzz. Pluses and minuses of everything out there.....trying them out to see what works best for you is a great way to do it.