track tuners and track tention

[Buzz]

Possibly- It could because if the track tries to turn the rear tire slightly faster then the rear chain, you'll see some slack in the tensioner side, and the tensioner could start making noises. Can you see what is making noise?

[philipatmaxfour]

Possibly- It could because if the track tries to turn the rear tire slightly faster then the rear chain, you'll see some slack in the tensioner side, and the tensioner could start making noises. Can you see what is making noise?

Hi Plott, I don;t have many hours of track use experience but R.S. Bolduc told me to tie strap the tensioners in their current position apparently to prevent them from ratcheting tighter when I put the tracks on. Mind you he also sold oversized blue nylon tensioner pads. I wonder if anyone else here has tried this?

[ARGOJIM]

Now that makes sense, the noise heard could have very well been the tensioner slapping the frame as the chain tensioned and slacked. The chain would tension on the bottom side in reverse and the large teeth in the tensioners would get noisy as they hopped trying to tension tighter and then force back against the frame stop.
If this is the noise it would probably be less noticeable in the earlier smaller toothed adjuster that is NLA.

[plott hound]

on Saturday I will pull the rear floor pan out and see where the noise is coming from.my adjusters are the semi auto ones that are raised by hand.will keep you posted.thanks again.

[john swenson]

sure am enjoying this discussion guys. lot's of great track info !! johnboy va.

[plott hound]

well you guys are correct in your assumptions. the noise is comimg from the teeth on the adjusters chattering on the frame.only the 2 rear adjusters are making noise,the others are fine.everything else feels and drives good.looks like Ive almost got these suckers set up correctly.now I just gotta figure out how to "tie strap them up.

stay "tuned"

[thorn]

Good to hear Plott. All of the different tracks need to be tweaked and tuned until you get the right combo of tire/track tension. Once you do it is smooth sailing. I went through the same thing with my Chanels at first.

[plott hound]

i hear ya there thorn,i think ive got it near perfect now.pulled the floor boards out and zip tied the rear adjusters down so they cant ratchet up.gave the chains a good lube while the boards were out then went for a 2 hour ride.no more chattering from the 2 rear adjusters and the machine feels good,real good.to bad our snow is almost gone but the ride through the bush was nice regardless.there was no chains thumping and bumping and the only time the other adjusters chattered was when I was turning.so all in all I do believe the tuners were a good investment and thankfully I bought them a few years back when our dollar was near par with the greenback.maybe in the future I will buy some of those heavy adjusters from bolduc argo and see how well they work.my only and biggest concern is getting a flat tire on one of my corner position,would not be a big ordeal here close to home but at our remote hunt camp it would suck long and hard.perhaps another wise investment would be 4 argo heat tires for the corner positions.anyhow thanks for everyones input and I hope this thread will help others with setting up their argo rubber tracks.

cheers

[plott hound]

last night we got a good 12" of snow so today was again"test the tuners day". put the plow back on the argo and pushed snow for 2 hours,no slippage.tracks were spinning on the ground so the corner tires were hooking up real good.my buddy came over with his argo so we did a 1.5 hour run up through the woods,machine powered through all the corners in the deep snow I could throw at it with no slippage.climbed over a few logs then hit the open road and ran a few ditches.again no tire slippage.my buddys new 700 avenger experienced some tire slippage so we gonna index the tires next week,he has no tuners.all in all and once again I'm real happy with the adair track tuners.

cheers

[john swenson]

plott, that's the ticket ... just keeping at it till you get the best combination of all the factors. have fun !! j.b.

[North Country Tough]

Old thread but I have always been shy of using Tuners on my track system mostly because of my amount of winter use and running overflow I was just plain afraid of tire slippage and getting bogged down in slush and the redundancy of more drive wheels now I understand anything can happen to render my machine useless but I try and limit this,the other day was a example to me to never run tuners machine was reasonably loaded 800 ish pounds with plow in place and we were 10 miles from home fresh powder 26 inches in places less in places more when I noticed some unusual noise coming from the right side track on turns stopped took a look and ya a not only flat but off the bead front tire just great snowin blowin -20F oh well carry on slow with extra caution on turns and back to the home base heated shop to replace the tire/rim it was pooched had to take and smooth out some of the track guides as the rim edge did a bit of a number on some but my point is to this long winded post is if I was dependent on the front and the back wheels only I would have been stranded forced to do a repair in the bush in some pretty severe conditions and fact was had no spare with me instead we were still warm and dry inside our enclosure with heater the cost of a tire/rim meaningless getting home everything,Jus Sayin.Cheers NCT

[Coast2Coast]

the other day was a example to me to never run tuners

If only there was a tuner that could be "pinned" or something to lock it back in when the center tires were needed.

Never ran them, but I got several flats last winter on front and rear tires running tracks, sure would have been even more of a pain with tuners. I just drove slowly back and worked on the tires at home.

[North Country Tough]

If only there was a tuner that could be "pinned" or something to lock it back in when the center tires were needed.

Never ran them, but I got several flats last winter on front and rear tires running tracks, sure would have been even more of a pain with tuners. I just drove slowly back and worked on the tires at home.

Yea something like locking hubs like on our 4 by that would be the ticket.NCT

[plott hound]

ive got my tuners on right now and have plowed several times with no tire slippage.NCT just experienced my worst fear if he had been running tuners.without the center tires driving a front or rear flat would be catastrophic for those who actually go "off road".i do like the tuners but being stranded once in a bad spot would take away from any benefit you gain from them.

[North Country Tough]

ive got my tuners on right now and have plowed several times with no tire slippage.NCT just experienced my worst fear if he had been running tuners.without the center tires driving a front or rear flat would be catastrophic for those who actually go "off road".i do like the tuners but being stranded once in a bad spot would take away from any benefit you gain from them.

Right on Plotthound we spend all our fun time "off road" back behind the cabin thru cattail swamps that snow blows in measured in feet we travel alone no other machine no trail for the most part other than what we make sometime hours from home base we do have the safety of cell service with a portable booster and have connections to others and a emergency response team all of which have tracked Argos now you see why I was grilling Buzz on half tracks for double redundancy I totally believe in the effectiveness of the Tuners especially with those of us stuck with the dreaded rubber track system but for remote area such as we use ours for they are sketchy at best and hey MR. if you want to come up and head in to your hunt camp thru the holidays bring it on myself and my wife would look forward to a run in with you heck we only got about 3 feet of snow at the moment.Chilly Cheers NCT