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I have seen some of the good qualities of the channel tracks but what about the drawbacks. I wonder how they will act when pushing through tree's and brush? will they turn into the tub and cut through. I had Adair 14.5 pro series on my conquest and loved them but they were slick on rocks and willows. I never put the winter kit on because I didn't want to make it to wide. Just looking ahead for when I put tracks on my new toy 2016 750 HDI with bead lockers and axle up grade.
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I love driving over trees and bush, I have had 0 problems with the tracks. Only thing to watch for I have found is that a branch or sapling will jam between the tracks and the tub, or between the tires and track (most likely happens with any track). I love taking someone out that has not been in an Argo before and head to the bush, find a spot with thick under growth that looks impassable, the just turn right into it and start breaking trail, the look in their eyes as they grab the O S**T handle is priceless. -
All I ever read on here is guys LOVE Them ! Never seen a bad side posted as of yet ?
I Don't have them but if I was to get tracks they would be the one's .Comment
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SHOTGUN, do you have 1" or 1 1/2" grousers and have you bent many?Comment
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They Chanels are not perfect, all depends what you want. You need to at least buy or use spacers compared to the Adair pro series. The Raised belt design does not have the initial flotation that a flat track would, for example driving on extremely thin ice rubber tracks would go where I would dare not walk. Chanel tracks do not swim but check out the Buzz swim mod on his youtube channel if that is what you want. The Chanels are not the most extreme track for a specific condition but good to very good at most all conditions. If I had an unlimited track budget I would purchase Escargo tracks and Adair pro series and swap out for the conditions that require the best attributes of either. Chanels in my opinion are hands down the best value for the money.Comment
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I have had Adair's on my 6x6 conquest and they are a great track. In mud they are hard to beat, but they can be very slick on willows, rocks, ice, and side hills. I run a lot of ground conditions in interior Alaska and the Argo is a great grocery getter, moose, caribou, fish, berries.Comment
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I wasn't going to say anything (that would be too predictable), but it always seems to take this kind of turn.
Well, I've replicated and/or modified every style of track out there. I live in Alaska and use my machines differently than most folks. Many machine owners enjoy visiting ATV parks and playing in the mud.
If that's for you, and you like what you have, tell everyone about it, and you'll see more folks around you use that track style.
I strictly deal face-to-face with locals in my neck of the woods so that they can correclty set up their machines for how we use them in Alaska. I like seeing people happy, and while I can build any track style, I refuse to make anything other than eleveated-belt all-steel tracks after having gone round and round and coming to that conclusion as to what works the best. It takes waaaaaaaaaaay more labor than any other style, but I know they work exceptionally well, and I've made a lot of friends because of it.
I've also taken in (on trade) every other track styles because people experienced certain side-effects and were at the end of their rope.
I have personally never heard anyone talk badly of the channel or escargo tracks, and I guarantee I would be the guy to hear about it. They all know where I live
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Deedeelin1 It kills me to read that just because everyone else has something that it must be the best. I do not in any way accuse you of misleading anyone, but please realize there is a lot more to a popular product than simply it is "THE BEST". Adiar Argo has to be one of the leaders in the AATV industry, great customer service with a huge product line and investment in R&D for tracks and accessories. This alone plus many other factors will be a major influence in sales of their products( price, advertising, brand recognition, product country of origin, demand for specific attributes of product ect.) . Beagle man has directly stated one of the flaws of the UHMW style tracks and is looking for options. Just like everything else in life there is no one product that does it all. I have the 1.5" Chanels and I believe that is all Marcel makes now the 1" was an earlier prototype I believe. I have never bent a grouser.Last edited by SHOTGUN; 01-06-2017, 03:00 PM.Comment
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I just reread your post and definitely got the jist of what you're trying to express.
Case in point, someone asks about channel tracks and a few people on this forum attempt to specuate and cast doubt in people's mind about the performance. Whenever you get some channel track customers telling you they love the track, people on this forum feel threatened. Not the first time, won't be the last.
Start another thread on your tracks.
Most of us north of the border have a slanted view of 6x6world track advice simply because some folks do not understand what is needed out of a track for it to be reliable for us. If yours work for how you use your machine, it doesn't necessarily mean they are the perfect solution for someone else in a much different scenario.
Our machines see a lot of hard work, heavy loads, and long hunting trips over all terrain types. Yes, Channel tracks are animals in the mud, but they also do very well in other conditions, turnkey. Things like low engine horsepower, leaky tires, loose tracks, or lots of sidehilling also don't cause problems for the tracks or the machine's tires. Swimming is the absolute least important quality for a track, however, channel tracks are simple to make swim very very well.
I see value as performance vs. cost.Comment
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Deedeelin1, I did not in any way mean to offend you just a sore spot for me when I see the " if everyone else jumps off a bridge" scenario. I read your post again and see that you did not say directly that the Adairs were the best but as I read, it comes across like the saying " I am not always right but have never been wrong yet"(not directed at you, just a comparison). I try to come from a point of explaining what attributes make a product what it is and let a person decide what attributes they desire or want from the product. I was quick to tell some drawbacks of the Chanel tracks also because I know nothing is perfect. Yes I did write Chanel tracks are the best value for the money but I always write before stating it IN MY OPINION because a statement like that is just an opinion. I do not want to start bickering because I value everyone's knowledge and opinion on the site and have learned much because of it. Just want to try to share some of my knowledge and opinions to try to help other out as well. Hope that clarifies where I stand, I realize what we type and what we actually mean to convey can be not accurate, so sorry if I came across as inconsiderate.Last edited by SHOTGUN; 01-06-2017, 05:15 PM.Comment
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DeeDeelin1, if that was directed at me -
I make channel tracks for locals where I live, nothing outside of that, and I can help people save a buck. I get my supplies here to support local business, and I'm able to build my version of the track, and it doesn't need to be shipped here. Anyone else I talk to I recommend they contact Marcel, Escargo, or Adair, depending where they live and what they're trying to accomplish.
So I have fun with my hobby, and I really do try to help people. The last thing I would do would be to build something that didn't work exceptionally well in our conditions.
That's what real-life track testing in Alaska is for, and i've already done lots of that.
There's a reason I'm only willing to make (1) style of track, even though my spine doesn't appreciate it
Other than than I don't know what you're trying to say or want me to think you're trying to say. After all this looked to be a channel track thread and looked to be side-tracked by folks that don't actually have channel tracks.
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