Tire replacement for old style one piece?

[Toyman]

I'm a newby here and just got a Terra Tiger that needs the all the original one piece tire/rims replaced. I know I'll need adapters and I keep seeing Richards Relics mentioned as a source for packaged deals. I want to know what the community here recommends I should put on this old stock machine?
I want to be able to water cross, climb on sharp rocks, and basically go anywhere my hearts content. It's currently sporting a JLO 295 but this could be subject to change if the drivetrain could support more HP. Axles look kind'a skimpy so I have my doubts they could handle a very large tire/rim.

[jpswift1]

Well first of all, stay away from Route6x6's tire/wheel/hub adapter package. First of all it is priced way too high. Second, the rims he uses are just trailer/garden tractor rims and you will have the tire come off the bead when you're running low air pressure. And finally he uses Carlisle tires that are very hard, and they can put extra stress on the older bodies since they ride so hard.

Here's what I'd recommend: You can make your own or a machine shop can make 3 to 5 lug hub adapters using the template here on the site.

http://www.6x6world.com/forums/general-brochures-articles/2228-three-lug-five-lug-template.html

Next, I'd go with 22" Goodyear Rawhide III tires since they have a softer ride and they last a lot longer than the Carlisle tires. You could also get the regular 21" Rawhide version but they'll ride a little harder. Have the tires mounted on K-lock wheels so you don't lose a bead when running at low PSI. These tires and wheels are all available from Recreatives. Amphibious Six-Wheel Drive All-Terrain Vehicles: MaxATVs - Call 1-800-255-2511 or you can sometimes find them used here on the classified section. These are probably the most popular tires, but there are others out there that you could use. Just browse around the photo gallery and the forum to see what people are using. Good luck with it.

[Toyman]

Tires

Wow thanks for the quick reply! This is exactly the type of response I was hoping for. I "really" appreciate the link to the adapters too. This will help tremendously if I decide to fab these up myself. Pretty simple really just need to find the time. I run a masonry construction business that takes much of my day so my spare time is precious and I want to go play.

[PlumCrazy]

Well first of all, stay away from Route6x6's tire/wheel/hub adapter package. First of all it is priced way too high. Second, the rims he uses are just trailer/garden tractor rims and you will have the tire come off the bead when you're running low air pressure. And finally he uses Carlisle tires that are very hard, and they can put extra stress on the older bodies since they ride so hard.

Here's what I'd recommend: You can make your own or a machine shop can make 3 to 5 lug hub adapters using the template here on the site.

http://www.6x6world.com/forums/general-brochures-articles/2228-three-lug-five-lug-template.html

Next, I'd go with 22" Goodyear Rawhide III tires since they have a softer ride and they last a lot longer than the Carlisle tires. You could also get the regular 21" Rawhide version but they'll ride a little harder. Have the tires mounted on K-lock wheels so you don't lose a bead when running at low PSI. These tires and wheels are all available from Recreatives. Amphibious Six-Wheel Drive All-Terrain Vehicles: MaxATVs - Call 1-800-255-2511 or you can sometimes find them used here on the classified section. These are probably the most popular tires, but there are others out there that you could use. Just browse around the photo gallery and the forum to see what people are using. Good luck with it.

Hey JP,
what is the issue with Richards 5lug hub upgrade, other than the cost?
They look pretty well made online.
I have Attex' with the 1" axles.
One of my Superchiefs do not have the hub conversion.
The other one has the welded donut on the inner end of the 3lug hub and the 5lug flange with the long support tube that doesn't touch the inner donut until you really start flexing that rim/flange.
The hub without the donut/tube support, bends axles/flanges very easly.
I can not find the 3to5lug conversion hubs with tubes anywhere, that's why I was looking at Richards 'upgrades'.
Is there another way to support the wheel/axle on the Attex's?

[jpswift1]

Hey JP,
what is the issue with Richards 5lug hub upgrade, other than the cost?
They look pretty well made online.
I have Attex' with the 1" axles.
One of my Superchiefs do not have the hub conversion.
The other one has the welded donut on the inner end of the 3lug hub and the 5lug flange with the long support tube that doesn't touch the inner donut until you really start flexing that rim/flange.
The hub without the donut/tube support, bends axles/flanges very easly.
I can not find the 3to5lug conversion hubs with tubes anywhere, that's why I was looking at Richards 'upgrades'.
Is there another way to support the wheel/axle on the Attex's?

The 5 lug hub upgrade that Route6x6 sells is just the plate not the tube that you discussed which supports the hub and the rims that are included in that package are just basic trailer/garden tractor rims. Here's my suggestion, if you take the adapter plate template for 3 to 5 lug conversions that Mike was nice enough to upload here and cut your own and weld your own steel support tubes on (or have it done at a local shop), and pick up some 8" 5 lug trailer wheels on ebay, some online store, or even Tractor Supply and you will save yourself quite a few bucks for other upgrades down the road. Or you could use the money you save and upgrade to some nice powdercoated K lock bead lock rims that Recreatives sells. I can tell you that I've run super low pressure in my tires and have never had them pop a bead with the K lock rims. Hope this helps.
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http://www.6x6world.com/forums/content/326-three-lug-five-wheel-adapter.html

UNUSED GALVANIZED 8 x 7 TRAILER WHEELS RIMS 5 LUG : eBay Motors (item 360243955518 end time Mar-22-10 16:54:33 PDT)

[racerone3]

i run these hubs on both of my attex's ATV Live Axle Hub | Brakes, Clutches, + Hubs | Northern Tool + Equipment. they are 4 lug. i have 8x8 atv wheels on my racer, and 8x7 golf cart wheels on my trail machine. Larryw also uses the golf cart rims. the bead lock on them is no where near as good as that on the k-locks, but the wheel being narrower helps keep beads on. i still loose one once in a while, but not too bad. the hubs in the link are cut for a keyway and have a set screw. i removed the set screw and drilled the hole out for the 3/8 through bolt. knock on wood, i haven't had any issues with those hubs and i'm not exactly eassy on my machines.

[NN4S]

I looked at the drawings and see that these are pretty straight forward- a pair of concentric bolt hole circles (5 on 4.5" and 3 on 2") centered up on a piece of 5/16" plate. What I don't see is the size the bolt holes are or the overall diameter of the plates... I'm guessing this would probably be obvious to me if I were able to get to the machine currently to remove a wheel, but that's just not happening right now since I'm still finishing up the bike and haven't been able to dig the Attex out of it's shed yet.

I was also wondering what the preferred material for these plates is; would 6061-T6 aluminum be sufficient for them, or is the intended material steel? If steel, should they be mild steel (say 1040) or something a bit stouter (4140, perhaps)? The reason I ask is that I am figuring I'll end up needing to swap out the tires on the old girl and will have no choice but to go with separate rims/tires. I'm currently retraining (from electronics to metalworking) and have access to a Haas VF1 that I'm thinking I should take advantage of to make myself a set of these. I can also do up a more formal print of them if desired, seeing as there's a good chance I'll do them up in Mastercam to program the toolpaths. Any thoughts on how to proceed with this?