attex tire size

[rocketman17joe]

Can i use 22-11-8 tires in my 400 chief??

[nate52]

i have 22-11-8 duro mud and snow tires on my attex 400 chief and they fit although i will have to buy smaller ones if I decide to run tracks. With the tires i have now I have about 1-2 inches between the tread and to bottom of the top tub, and this is with them inflated more than I am going to run regularly. But if you have any plans of running tracks on your machine I would highly suggest going with a smaller size tire height wise otherwise 22-11-8's will fit on you machine.

[jpswift1]

22's will fit. I've seen many Attexes with 22's on them (including one of my own machines), but if you ever want to run tracks Nate is right 21's are what you'll need.

[vanmeterj1]

Good question and I need some help on this one too...

I have a Mixed Parts (all attex just differnt years and alot of aftermarket stuff) Machine that has so many different bolt patterns and different tires on it, that it's driving me nuts. I have searched High and low everywhere to find this information on 6x6World and have gotten good feed back but cannot find everything I need, Now here is my remaining Question,

All of the old knobby tires that came with my machine are 22" tires with some sort of 8" Rim (differnt widths and bolt patterns, yeah hubs are next), In an effort to get this mess straight, I have decided to run the 22x11-8.00 Swamp fox tire. Ordered them yesterday and they are on thier way, (350$ Plus shipping and Handeling, not bad)Now, all I have to do is find the best rim to run (because I litterly have 5 different rims on my machine and none of them are good),

I have not decided on a 4 or 5 bolt pattern, and there are easy ways of making my axels fit both, Keep up boys, here is where you guys come in....

Richards relics has the 5 bolt 8x8 or the 8x7 with the bead lock ridge for about 45 each(everyone has seen them and says good and bad things about them)

but there is an option for a 8x9 rim (4+5 offset) 4" on 4 bolt pattern that also has a bead ridge (had to call to ask) here is the link: Steel ATV & Trailer Wheels ATV whls

I have found one other site that has an 8x9 without the ridge and one more that cariies the same one as the link I posted.

The last option and it sounds bad already, but I'm going to list it: There is a ton of cheap 8x7 4 on 4 rims(sans beadlock ridge) for golf carts here is a link to one of them:
8x7 Steel Offset Wheels - Everything Carts

Has any one with the 22" tire on an ATTEX have any good information on what they are running for Rims and can you say if the 5 or 4 lug is a better pattern?

[jpswift1]

Get the 5 lug K lock wheels directly from Recreatives. Richard Clark buys from Recreatives and then marks up the prices. Amphibious Six-Wheel Drive All-Terrain Vehicles: MaxATVs - Call 1-800-255-2511 I'd go with 5 lug because it is more common and you have the strength of an extra lug compared to the 4 lug.

[vanmeterj1]

JP, thank you.

I just spoke with them and they get 53$ each and 40$ for shipping here to NC (358$ for 6) It would seem that the 45$ each from Richard is the better deal. Is the K-lock wheel different from the one Richard sells? (I also just learned that the K-lock is a Kawasaki rim, see how new I am.. yeah!

I am still not sold on this 5 lug thing, although the added strength is a good point. I have seen more bent axels on this site than you can shake a stick at and that is happening to guys with a 3 lug to 5 lug conversion plate. It stands to reason that if three was factory, four is an upgrade, would then 5 not be overkill in the scale?

I did see there is a quick axel fix with an add on hub from Northern tool that other folks here are using: ATV Live Axle Hub | Brakes, Clutches, + Hubs | Northern Tool + Equipment
If I were building a racer i could see solid axels, 5 lug plates and much much more.

As It stands, Still in the IDK area.

[hydromike]

The rationale for upgrading to solid axles and a standard (current manufacturing standard on AATVs) 5 lug hub is largely due to the availability of more durable wheels, and the tires that fit them. The K-lock rim (only available in 5-lug) in the 8" and 9" varieties is a huge improvement over the older 3-bolt rims. Rolling beads off the rims at low (0-3) psi is tough with these rims, but it still happens occassionally. The axle bending phenomenon isn't unique to hollow axles, solid axles, 1" axles or beefy 1 1/4" axles. Racers bend them, and trail machines bend them. I've bent a lot more on the trail than on the track, actually.

I run a lot of 3 to 5 lug adaptors on three different machines, but only because I don't have the ability ($$$$) to upgrade to larger 1 1/4" axles with the integrated hub right now. The adaptors and one inch axles work well, but if you're investing in the machine's long term usability, it's like Whipper says: "Pay me now, or pay me later".
I have my own lesson to learn with this, too. I've bent and broken so many hubs and axles on the eight wheeler that it's been 10 times more effort spent in maintenance than if I had tried to upgrade in the first place.

The Northern Tool hub may be a quick fix, but I fear that any sort of use beyond circles in the yard would make quick work of it. As a first and cheapest step, I think you'd be better off investing in a set of 3 to 5 lug adaptors and getting a set of K-locks. I think you'll be impressed. This is a reasonably tried and true combination that holds up to most of what you'll put it through.

Does your Attex have hollow axles now? If so, a set of solid axles would be a great first step.

~m

[racerone3]

i'm running the northern tool hub on my racer and trail pig... so far so good. my other trail pig is running k-locks. if you can afford to do the 5 lug and k-lock setup... DO IT! while broken beads on the trail aren't that big a deal to fix, it gets tiresome after the 3rd or 40th time...

[vanmeterj1]

I would only want to keep the hub piece as a remedial fix for any issues.

The axels are 1 solid, and 5 hollow, with all different adapters. I have (three different kinds of inner bearings) and to top it all off with my mismatched tubs have fiberglass repairs all around the tub.

I am not worried about the axel situations as I have decided to go with solids for those and will re-work all of the drive gear in the process, (chains, sprokets,frame, SS hardware, t-20 service) Who ever built this had some knowledge in the 6x6 comunity, but the last guy who had it before me must have not been as handy and neglected alot of proper maintenance.

Speaking of circles in the yard actually, I saw you guys last spring at Busco, (happens to be my home Riding turf of choice) and decided that one of these six by six wheel thingies would be way cooler than getting a hopped up golf cart for my girl and her dorkie to ride around in. As fate would serve it, the 6 wheel option was way cooler than i could have dreamed, so after a few short trips to busco with mommys new tank, I decided it needed to be torn down to the last nut and bolt this winter and rebuilt all proper like. (or as money allows).

biggest problem now is that that I have fallen prey to the 6x6 maddness. I am saving up to get a MAX IV at the same time for me, and I am trying to keep the budget reasonable on the Attex for her.

So that being said, She will not need tracks(22's...check) she will spend a large part of her time riding to the bathroom or going up those big dirt piles and or floating from one to the next (swamp fox swimmers) and letting her little dog do most of the driving. I will no doubt get to play with it a little (solid axels, just in case) untill i can get my own

Yes, mine will be severliy built to some level of maddness not yet seen in the 6x6 journals, or, at least that would be the goal.

You see how I have come to this impass on the rims, does it really require a K-lock since the ones I have found that are four lug do also have the ridge and seem to be fairly available. I think the Question is how easy would it be for me to keep the fours going as much as the fives.

Do you hear of any real issues with the 3-4 adapter plates?

[jpswift1]

JP, thank you.

I just spoke with them and they get 53$ each and 40$ for shipping here to NC (358$ for 6) It would seem that the 45$ each from Richard is the better deal. Is the K-lock wheel different from the one Richard sells? (I also just learned that the K-lock is a Kawasaki rim, see how new I am.. yeah!

I am still not sold on this 5 lug thing, although the added strength is a good point. I have seen more bent axels on this site than you can shake a stick at and that is happening to guys with a 3 lug to 5 lug conversion plate. It stands to reason that if three was factory, four is an upgrade, would then 5 not be overkill in the scale?

I did see there is a quick axel fix with an add on hub from Northern tool that other folks here are using: ATV Live Axle Hub | Brakes, Clutches, + Hubs | Northern Tool + Equipment
If I were building a racer i could see solid axels, 5 lug plates and much much more.

As It stands, Still in the IDK area.

The ones Richard sells are just golf cart or garden tractor style ones.......I believe you could get the same ones that he sells cheaper if you go to Tractor Supply. The K lock ones are great for running very low tire pressure so the bead doesn't come from its seat.

[vanmeterj1]

That makes good sense JP, maybe the tractor supply one's might fit the bill here as well. I just don't see this attex getting too far off the beaten path. LOL not with her at the wheel She is more worried about how it will look.

Better to maybe save my bucks for the Future max iv and make sure it gets the vamps and the k-locks

[vanmeterj1]

Up date:

A big brown truck came to the house and pooped a new set of AMS Swamp foxes and six shiny new rims from ITP. the rims go out monday to get powder coated. I went with the 4x100/3/100 pattern Rims. They look pretty solid and since they are ATV rims I feel they will perform to the standards I want. I also got them for a steal at just 130$ for 6 deliverd. I'm in to the new rims and tires for 480$ and I am making some hubs like the ones that match the norther tool design. I think I will be using a longer tube to help support the axel as well.

Aw... more good news... once i got everything apart I discovered that while none of the hubs match very well I do at least have 6 solid 1" axels to work with. Looking at them, they appear to be the 4130 type..

Man this is fun... any one want to stear me to the best Attex chasis post?