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Winter is over. Just wondering how you guys running Adair Tracks ran in the snow. Were you running the standard 14.5 tracks or did you have add the extensions?
Thanks for the info
Thanks for the info
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Hey:
My Max2 with Adair tracks doesn't get to run around in much snow here in Texas. However, I did take it to a friend's place in Missouri in the winter. They still had over a foot of snow on the ground as well as some iced over ponds. I never thought a Max 2 couldd do what it did. Uphill, downhill, sideways on hills, it had plenty of grip, steering was excellent, traction like a snowmobile. It never bogged once, it left a very light footprint in the snow too. I am sold on Adair tracks. The plan is to outfit all my AATVs with them. -
I have lots of experience with snow up here in Canada and there is a bit of a trick to snow. The longer the snow lays the more dense it becomes.Running in the same week over lets say of two one foot snowstorms,the going will be a challenge especially on a fair grade but for everyday the snow lays and compacts the going gets easier and easier.In March after the snow has laid for three months you can literally breeze anywhere even over 4-5 feet of snow.Running in deep snow depends on how long it has laid and is an acquired skill.I really like the Adair track concept but they can't have the flotation in snow of the factory tracks I believe even with snow extensions as they don't have the surface due to the openings between the cleats,but they do have really nice cleats. All this said....Noel,what tires are you running under your Adair tracks,I have to make a decision this weekend regarding new Argo tires for my Max and I realize 24" won't work with Adair tracks but will 22"?Comment
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The Max 2 that I have the Adair tracks on has the prototype tracks (The first that were made for a Max 2, ever by Adair Argo). They were an experiment to prove the concept. Tim Shafer, the inventor, wanted the first tracks to fit universally, that is even with the base, older Max2s with the side mounted exhaust system. For that he experimented with tires, this being the first set, he went conservative with 18" tires mounted on standard Argo 8" wheels. They have plenty of body and muffler clearance, measure about 14" wide, and are superb in the mud. There is a comparison photo in my images that show this Max 2 and my wheeled Max 2 with the 25" tires sitting nose to nose. Ground clearance is similar with about a 1/2" advantage going to the wheeled machine. Swimming speed is slow, maybe 1 mph due to the small buoyancy in the tires as it sits lower in the water and has more drag. Tim is finalizing on a different track and tire combination now, those will be 20" tires with increased buoyancy and better water speed.
I have requested that Tim work on another track system utilizing the 22" tires that most people have on their machines. It will be necessary to heat the wheels wells up for clearance, but I test fit the tracks from my Swamp Fox on the Max 2 wheeled vehicle I have, and they do work. clearance was tight with the standard cleat height, but if he could drop the cleat to 1" or so, it would be a great system.
If anybody is interested, I would encourage you to contact Tim at Adair Argo and discuss it further. Demand drives invention, and if we can prove that there is a market for these, I'm sure they will be made.Comment
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I ran Adair tracks this past winter.
We had one big snow (for around here) that ended up a measure 14", with some drifts over 4 feet. It was dry, powdery snow.
Our Max II on 22" Rawhide IIs could not get out of the garage. The Adair tracked Argo 8x8 drove everywhere, through drifts and all. I did hit two places where it bogged down in a large drift on the backside of a hill, but all that I did was put it in reverse and back out.Comment
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Not running in snow ,but a lot of swamp and mud. (PUDDING MUD ) Took out my 980 Big foot last weekend for it first trip. Did pretty good for its first trip.It has 26x12x12 bear klaws ,(great mud tire ) but not for me. I guess I got spoiled on the Adair tracks.Cuz I was getting pulled out of the holes all day, that was no problem for the Adair tracks. I said it be for and Ill say it again TIRES ARE OBSOLETE AROUND WHERE WE PLAY!!!!!!!!! Running over stumps ,rocks, trees,running in water,sand,mud,gumbo mud and pudding mud just makes since to run Adair tracks. Ive seen it and done it my self with the tracks can make you a little cocky and a bit of a show off in the mud holes. Its funny to see 40 or so jacked up 4x4 atv's sitting on the side watching a 7 year old (JR)playing in a mud hole and every 1 of them say the same thing (that's way to bad for me to get in but he makes it look so easy).I know if I take a wheeled 6x6 in the same hole Im stuck.I had a good time last weekend but Ill admit I did get a little mad cuz of getting stuck with the tires only. So for me all my 6x6s will have Adair tracks even HOGWILD will have a set in the future. I have noticed this first hand too. The stress on the axles,bearings, chains and belts is cut in half or even more with running the tracks.Turning ,climbing,and all only uses half the power,plus the yard isnt all tore up like it is with the tires.Just my 2 cents worth.Comment
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Any thoughts on how they swim?Comment
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Unlike any other track that I have seen, these Adair tracks swim very well.
The nose of my 8x8 Frontier lifts up at full throttle in the water, and it probably swims in the neighborhood of 4-5 mph.Comment
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