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  • smog
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    Originally posted by MAX IV Mark View Post
    but with my GPS on my last ride I would top out just below 20mph. I have the 29 HP kawasaki in it (50 hours on machine).
    yes but your 29hp Kawa will hit the governor at 3400rpm while the 29hp Bandolero engine is unleashed and will keep climbing up to 5500rpm. trust me I was significantly faster than any Argo there including the brand new HDI and a 3900rpm, chip tuned EFI.

    so assuming we have the same gearing and same condition belts, same clutches, @ a conservative 4500rpm, I will move 25% faster. Then again, the total rolling diameter is 26" from the top of track to the hard surface (like on the lake) adding another 12% distance-to-rotation ratio over the OEM track setup.

    but all of this means nothing in the woods and I would rather have your 29hp kawa with loads of torque at low rpm where we need it. (but it was cool to fly by 10 argo on the lake)

    ... but before swapping a 29hp kawa, I would try the firefly engine with 55hp @ 6500rpm.... a very easy swap in a Max IV.
    Last edited by smog; 02-15-2012, 09:16 AM.

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  • MAX IV Mark
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    Looked like a lot of fun. I thought my max would do about 25 on the tracks, but with my GPS on my last ride I would top out just below 20mph. I have the 29 HP kawasaki in it (50 hours on machine). I got my vacation planned for the end of next week up to the cabin in Denbigh Ontario and taking the MAX IV with me. Can only dream there would be the kind of snow you were plowing through.

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  • smog
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    Originally posted by MAX IV Mark View Post
    Smog,
    I am having trouble finding many shots of your machine in those links.
    I was the trail leader/organiser so I had to be everywhere to keep the sheep together. A couple time I even had to go from closing the trail aatv to the first place before the next fork in the trail; passing the 10 argos at screaming full throttle (the max on tracks is good for 25 to 30mph on flat land).

    I have the bright red ski coat (snowboard teaching) so I'm always out of the Max, somewhere in the pictures helping others. It's part of the fun when organising rides.


    People looking for more pictures of the organised rides made by the sentier6x6 members and surf the threads in this forum (yes, the comments are in French but the pictures are in English....) : http://www.sentier6x6.com/Forum.aspx?forumid=2
    Last edited by smog; 02-15-2012, 08:36 AM.

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  • MAX IV Mark
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    Smog,
    I am having trouble finding many shots of your machine in those links. I take it your the black sheep of the family up there in Argo land? My brother in law said when he goes up to the cabin, its kinda lonely being the lone Artic Cat in Ski-Doo country.

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  • smog
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    Originally posted by Obsessed View Post
    awesome picture smog...looks like a blast! thanks for sharing...got any more? :-)

    tim
    There's more on the French-Canadian forum : Sentier 6x6 - Argo Max tera-jet Forum

    Last edited by smog; 02-15-2012, 07:48 AM.

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  • Obsessed
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    Originally posted by smog View Post
    A new picture of last week-end's ride !!

    awsome picture smog...looks like a blast! thanks for sharing...got any more? :-)

    tim

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  • smog
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    Originally posted by spookum View Post
    And has anyone put a dozen or so UHMW chunks on the tracks to support the track for on pavement purposes
    it will defeat the whole purpose of the rubber. Pavement is exactly like frozen ground/ice/wood/rocks during winter. The plastic/HDPE/UHMWPE tracks can't get grip on it; I have seen it first hand last week end. And it's not the pavement that is hard on the drivetrain components, it's the rubber-rubber contact between the tires and the tracks

    edit : and what make the Argo + trutrax worst than anything else is the closed cleat cell design packing with snow and the rigid segments making sure the snow stays packed in the closed cleats. Adair Argo found a way around this kind of design flaws and are significantly better.

    edit 2 : you know, all the tracks made it up the hill at a certain point. it just took a lot longer for some while instant for others. So don't think it's a black and white situation.
    Last edited by smog; 02-14-2012, 09:10 AM.

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  • spookum
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    Just thought i would throw this out there, make sure you keep the correct direction of rotation. I beleive that newer snow machine tracks are computer desighned to run just one way. It should say on them which direction that is. Just important to keep in mind if you run a particualar off set. Hopefuly im not repeating somone here. And has anyone put a dozen or so UHMW chunks on the tracks to support the track for on pavement purposes to keep from tearing up drive terain components yet?

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  • smog
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    190" per side over 23" mesured diameter tires @ 7 psi

    so it took a bit less than 1 and a half 133" polaris track per side.

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  • weber
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    what size tires are you runnin and what length about did you cut your tracks

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  • weber
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    northern minnesota we only have about 5 inches of snow and it sucks

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  • smog
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    Originally posted by Beeman View Post
    Must be nice to have snow out there.. it's all gone over here in Alberta :P
    It's not the winter we used to have when I was younger.

    in the woods, we have 24 inches but 30 minutes south, in Montreal, they have barely 6 inches over the lawn.

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  • Beeman
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    Must be nice to have snow out there.. it's all gone over here in Alberta :P

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  • smog
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    A new picture of last week-end's ride !!

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  • smog
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    Originally posted by weber View Post
    hi,i was wondering what size track you made those homemade tracks from, i got the older plastic tracks and mine are starting to crack where the pins go in if you could i would like more info on hoe you made those thanks, ron
    from the very first post :

    Originally posted by smog
    I got 3 identical snowmobile tracks. I chose the polaris 1.5" as it was easy to find on flebay. So I got 3x 133.5"x15"x1.5" polaris RMK tracks Paid 100$ each + shipping.

    and here is the starting point with all the info : https://www.6x6world.com/forums/tire...er-tracks.html

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