So I changed my gear oil in my 2003 Conquest last night. I drained it into a ziplock bag. I know a little metal is normal however it looked like metallic paint. I don't think that its normal but hope it is.
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Metallic looking gear oil. Tell me its normal.....
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How high is your idle set ( and or wait for it to idle down before shifting as it gets expensive). Gear clash is the main source of shavings in a Argo transmission, part failure is next but gear clash is more often seen. If you have to force it in gear the idle is set to high.sigpic
My new beer holder spilled some on the trails - in it's hair and down it's throat.
Joe Camel never does that.
Advice is free, it's the application that costs.
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No doubt it's not what you "want" to see, but I wouldn't be overly alarmed just yet. If it's working fine and sounding fine anyway. Hopefully you're not seeing large "shavings" or "chunks." I don't know how many times I've seen the "metallic paint" look in 4-wheeler differentials. Fluid level is usually low too at the same time. I'm guessing that was the first time it's been drained. Probably previous owner's lack of maintenance. A quart or two of gear oil is cheap...I don't know why anyone wouldn't do it often.
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Bridget, Argo gears are straight cut, if the trans is engaged at anything other than an idle they will clash (grind) causing possible low gear and input shaft wear. If this happens long enough it will round or sharpen the straight cut gears causing at first excessive whine and later enough vibration that it will come out of gear usually when letting of the throttle and later under load. Hopefully he is not at this point, some metal is normal in the Argo transmissions though it's usually caught by the magnetic drain plug.
High idle is an Argo enemy, they run next to no backlash.
Hopefully it clears up and the trans is fine after an oil change or 2, Argo recommends changes at 100 hours with 85w90 gear oil.sigpic
My new beer holder spilled some on the trails - in it's hair and down it's throat.
Joe Camel never does that.
Advice is free, it's the application that costs.
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Argo Mech told me to shift into reverse first then into high. when starting out with a machine running at idle for a bit.
Always thought having a brake on the input shaft would help reduce a lot of trans wear and tear.
My old 93 Polaris quad is PVT and the rear foot brake stops the trans and clutch rotating making shifting a non grinding affair.
Scary thing is my Buddy's just recently acquired early 90s 8x8 had this show up. We were both new to Argo's in 96 He showed me the silver trans oil 2 days into a 2 week hunting trip neither of us were wise to this.
2 days later the trans calved. Bad timing Took 3 weeks to get it rebuilt.Last edited by Moosetalker; 04-07-2013, 01:36 AM.
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I changed the gear oil 4 days ago on my 750 HDI with 48 hours. I pulled the plug and to my surprise the oil didn't look like gear oil kind of a grey silver metallic and thick I made a couple calls and found out that ODG puts that grey gear oil in for the initial break in. I ran some clean 80w-90 in it for a couple hours of use and changed it again. Now it has AMSOIL 75w-90 synthetic gear oil in it.
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