My buddy Normable1973 needs a new clutch

[Normable1973]

Soon. I got the t20 apart, I made 4 jacking bolts and pushed the plate out (way too much permatext) the end of the plate that is in middle of trans is messed up I think I put washer on wrong end. Also I think I need new bands and my drums turned. You can see all pics in my album(90s max 2) What would you do? Thanx. Norm...

[Normable1973]

Sometimes that's what I wanna do!!!

[amphibious drew]

I'm gonna soak the whole thing in gas tom morn.

Just don't light a match and watch it burn!

[Normable1973]

I'm gonna soak the whole thing in gas tom morn.

[Normable1973]

Ok I know about those c clips. It's like the plate is stuck really good with silicone. I wish I knew how to post pics

[Dan67]

wonder if there is more then a clip causing problems

[JoeMeg]

My guess is that the right side band anchor pin is hanging up in the hole on the center plate. Ya may just have to to try and "wiggle" the plate a bit

[hydromike]

C clips?

After you split the cases and get the right-side off of the center plate, you'll have to take this C-clip off in order to get the center plate out.





If all of the bolts that hold the two case halves together have been removed, there's nothing but friction (and maybe some silicone if it's been applied) holding the halves together. Honest.

[Normable1973]

C clips?

[Normable1973]

I got the halfs apart but it's like the plate won't come apart. They are about 1/2 inch apart and won't come anymore. Something is holding them together. Very aggravating..

[fmints]

RUBBER MALLET, SMALL PUNCH, DIESEL FUEL ON SILICONE, ELBOW GREASE, LOTS OF SWEARING ohh and REMOVE THE C-CLIPS,,,,,,, there is the recipe! DAN67 had a similiar problem with his T-20,,,, shoot,,, we all have had problems with the case halves not splitting. The silicone is the culprit,, the factory paper gasket is the best thing for it, but you know how it is,, being impatient, and trying to save a few bucks, so we result to the gasket maker stuff. I've put silicone on all of my T-20's but I made sure that I didnt over-do it. Next time try letting the silicone cure or harded a bit (bout an hour or so), before you marry the halves. Good luck buddy!

[Normable1973]

Okay has anyone had problems getting the trans apart? I've had it apart once bout a month ago but this time it's stuck together, it will come apart 1/4 in but that's it. I put it together with gasket maker do you think the plate might be holding it. Any suggestions? Just got my new clutch in and everything to get it going..... HELP.. Thanx.. Norm....

[Normable1973]

Okay, once I get it apart I'll show you pics.. Thanx.. Norm.

[thebuggyman1]

Norm, it sounds like you need to treat it like a complete overhaul. Inspect everything, and I suspect you will need some new parts in there.
I'll send you a PM with my email address for sending pictures.
The input shaft should move about 1/8". If yours moves 1" it means you either lost a retaining clip or have a worn out center plate....I'm betting on the center plate to get that much movement w/o the shaft coming all the way out.
You also need to buy a seal and gasket kit from R.I. You will find out that silicone sealing the case halves together will make it a P.I.T.A. to get back apart. You could soak the whole trans in gasoline or other solvent to make the silicone release. Again, a Pain I.T.A.
For the bands, right/wrong, They can get turned backwards if a loop is pulled through the center, but they will look twisted if that happened. The only other thing to look for is one end should have a small amount of the bend taken out, effectively straightening it to hook to the plunger.....this one is not such a big deal, and if flipped, or not straightened, they seem to work fine.

[Normable1973]

I'll pull it apart tom, I think if I take it down .030 it should be good. I gotta make sure the bands are on correctly, everything else was put together wrong. How do you tell if they are wrong or right. Also I have the trans out now and the shaft where the clutch goes on moves in and out about an inch, is this correct.? I also just used permatext where the trans comes together. Is that bad?