what happened to the baker hill trans?

[AndyL]

is there a reason why attex quit using the baker hill trans and used the t-20? when max wouldn't sell them the t-20 anymore, why didn't they use the baker hill instead of the troublesome G-1 and G-2? it seems like baker hill was a good transmission to use in the racers and all their models...

[jpswift1]

I believe Attex didn't use the Baker Hill because the high speed that the high horsepower engines (such as the G50B and JLO 400 and 440) would reach probably would have worn out the small brake pucks on the Baker Hill out much faster than a T-20 would wear out. Racers would use the Baker Hill because it was small, and it could save room and some weight in their machines. If they spent some time and money on R&D on improving the Baker Hill with larger brakes and made it able to fit #50 chain Attex would have been on the right track probably. I would imagine that they just saw that the T-20 was available and it was just an easier more cost effective option at the time. Also, I don't think it is true that Max wouldn't sell them T-20's. That is just incorrect information from an unreliable source on the net. Plus Max was not the sole owner of the rights to the T-20, it was also Hustler Corporation. Hope this helps.

[AndyL]

I believe Attex didn't use the Baker Hill because the high speed that the high horsepower engines (such as the G50B and JLO 400 and 440) would reach probably would have worn out the small brake pucks on the Baker Hill out much faster than a T-20 would wear out. Racers would use the Baker Hill because it was small, and it could save room and some weight in their machines. If they spent some time and money on R&D on improving the Baker Hill with larger brakes and made it able to fit #50 chain Attex would have been on the right track probably. I would imagine that they just saw that the T-20 was available and it was just an easier more cost effective option at the time. Also, I don't think it is true that Max wouldn't sell them T-20's. That is just incorrect information from an unreliable source on the net. Plus Max was not the sole owner of the rights to the T-20, it was also Hustler Corporation. Hope this helps.

I didn't know that! I wonder what stopped Hustler then. I'm assuming maybe Max bought the rights from them because Skid Steer Corp (Max) manufactures the T-20 today instead of Borg Warner. Those of us who know about Attexes know that attexatvs owns the molds and the rights to Attex...it seems to me that there would be a business to remake Attex with some more R&D in the design and drivetrain. They could use "built Briggs 4-strokes" like in Whipper's springer, or even some of the 2 strokes built today by 2si. To make new Attexes with high speed could reach somewhat of a different market than the utility-powered vehicles today. Just my 2 cents.

I'm only 19 and in college majoring in Piano Performance and Music Business, but AATV's have always been my hobby and I want to someday be a part of this business too! I'm kinda a gearhead on the side lol.

[jpswift1]

Andy, from what I hear, Hustler just decided to stop production one day and close their doors. Max got the complete rights to the T-20 once this happened. As far as attexatvs owning all of the rights and molds, most people agree that this is more fiction than fact. Keep on wrenchin' and good luck with school.

[AndyL]

Andy, from what I hear, Hustler just decided to stop production one day and close their doors. Max got the complete rights to the T-20 once this happened. As far as attexatvs owning all of the rights and molds, most people agree that this is more fiction than fact. Keep on wrenchin' and good luck with school.

hhmmm....definitely sounds like something to look into. just some curiosity here. i'll just enjoy my max for now and finish college then see what happens! thanks!

[LarryW]

hmmm, I always thought that Max did stop attex from using there tranny. I wonder if anybody knows for sure what happen there.

[AndyL]

back to the baker hill trans, is the design still patented today? i couldn't find anything, but it would be nice to find some plans or blueprints or something... perhaps some of you attex nuts can chime in if you know of a lead or something...

[brushcutter]

Strange, the story I got on the Max vs Hustler thing was this:The two of them were always in competition for the t-20,whitch caused them both production stalls.So they agreed that whoever sold the most machines over the next month would get exclusive rights to the legendary t-20.And the loser would have to find another tranny or close it's doors.Hustler lost the bet and subsequentially closed its doors for lack of a tranny of satisfactory quality.Sounds hokey to me,but sometimes truth is stranger than fiction!