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  • T-20 shift kit

    Anyone use the shift kit that Richard Clark sells for the t-20.

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    That shift kit is a copy of Hustler's original design. On my Hustler, the springs do help with the shifting because there is quite a bit of linkage and shift mechanisms on the machine. Basically, the springs give you that extra leverage or "kick" to get the T-20 to switch gears.
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    • #3
      Thanks for the response jpswift1. Maybe I will give them a try.

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      • #4
        I ordered a shift kit for my Max IV about a month ago , and it made a BIG difference in the ease of shifting into foward or reverse. Just a little jggle on the shift lever ,and it easily goes into foward or reverse. No more rocking back and forth like I used to. This was money well spent. It works so well ,this should be on every Max Recreatives sells.

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        • #5
          Thanks again mudbug3. It is always good to find out that it works before you buy something.

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          • #6
            I ordered a shift kit for the RI Buffalo and WOW! What a difference! Shifting used to be a delicate dance between rocking the machine and moving the shifting lever. Now shifting is extremely smooth and easy. I agree with mudbug3 that the shift kit is money well spent.

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            • #7
              How much money was well spent ?

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              • #8
                [QUOTE : How much money was well spent ?

                liflod ,

                I think the price I paid was $79.95 ,and with shipping it came to around $83.35 . It now shifts better than new. I really like the way it goes into foward or reverse . Trying to change into foward or reverse , before the easy shift kit , was an exercize in frustration. Like I posted , this was money well spent.

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                • #9
                  mudbug,

                  Is the shift kit the two springs on either side of the shifting linkage? or is there more to it than that?

                  Mike
                  "Don't worry my Dad's a TV repairman, he has an excellent set of tools..I can fix It"

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                  • #10
                    [QUOTE ]

                    Is the shift kit the two springs on either side of the shifting linkage? or is there more to it than that?

                    Imagine two round steel rods , each one shaped like an L , and about 3/8" thick . The straight part of each L shaped rod is about 6-7 inches long , and the short part of each L shaped rod , is about 2 inches long . Each L shaped rod has two washers with two springs, with small holes on each end for a cotter pin .

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                    • #11
                      Another big thumbs up from me for the shift kit!
                      I ride a brown '96 Max 4 (skid plate, roll cage, 26" Rawhides, 20hp, custom winch and tow plates) with a 2K front winch and a 4K come-along for back up. I pack 20'tow-strap, 2 chains and 2 hooks,a jeep jack, and a big block of PT wood. Also an axe and chainsaw. And mechanic tools. I have a tote with a tarp and bungees. Spare parts. Two rifles. Hey, arent I supposed to be able to have three passengers?

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                      • #12
                        Finesse Not Force

                        Originally posted by jpswift1 View Post
                        That shift kit is a copy of Hustler's original design. On my Hustler, the springs do help with the shifting because there is quite a bit of linkage and shift mechanisms on the machine. Basically, the springs give you that extra leverage or "kick" to get the T-20 to switch gears.
                        your right they are a copy of the hustler design and they do work.but they do not give you any extra leverage or kick,if any thing they give you a cushion.you can apply more gear grinding force with rigid direct linkages. force is NOT what you need to shift gears,you need finesse! before i explain what the springs do everyone should understand something about the t-20 transmissionS and please someone correct me if i'm wrong!!! I used an S at the end of transmission because the t-20 is actually 2 completely separate transmissions that happen to share 3 things a housing,main shaft and fluid.that being said,no 2 transmissions are the same,each one has its own personality.one will always be easier to shift than the other.when they are new the difference might be hard to tell since they are ALMOST identical but as they are used they may wear very differently depending on adjustment differences, direction you steer more often,how long you hold the turn and whether you "feather" the drive or brake bands.also since they are separate the odds of stopping and having both reverse gear sets be aligned and ready to mesh is not very good,lucky if one is! What the springs do is they allow the side that is aligned or if neither is aligned,the side that shifts better to partially engage its gear set while applying GENTAL spring force to the butting gear set. when you rock the vehicle the tires move one of the 2 gears on the butting side allowing them to GENTLY mesh. the partially engaged side simply waits for the other side to catch up. without the springs when you shift, one side is probably going to butt gears,even if the other side is lined up it wont engage becouse they are connected to one handle. when you rock the vehicle to get the butting side to line up unfortunately you move the other side out of alignment since all six tires move at the same time. here's a pic of the sidewinder springs I don't need anymore since i am using 2 shift levers.only shifting one side at a time COMPLEATLY eliminates the problem.rigid linkages or possibly 33c boat shifter cables will give me more "feel" than sprung lingages! they help the max 4 and any other vehicles with long lingages that change direction many times MORE becouse you lose "feel" through all the lingages but they will still make a max II with short lingages shift easyer,although you might lose a little "feel". probably a good trade off since you are still trying to shift 2 transmissions with one handle!
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                        • #13
                          Guy's,

                          You can make the shift kit using your current linkages and about $5.00 worth of springs and washers.

                          $80 wow I'm in the wrong business. Please tell me you didn't have to exchange your old linkage
                          "Don't worry my Dad's a TV repairman, he has an excellent set of tools..I can fix It"

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by micmac View Post
                            Guy's,

                            You can make the shift kit using your current linkages and about $5.00 worth of springs and washers.
                            I kinda thought the same thing from the pictures, unless I'm missing something

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by micmac View Post
                              Guy's,

                              You can make the shift kit using your current linkages and about $5.00 worth of springs and washers.

                              $80 wow I'm in the wrong business. Please tell me you didn't have to exchange your old linkage
                              couldnt have said it better myself!!!! only thing is you wrecked it for me i was planning on spray painting them and selling them for $78 plus shipping,after all they are used....just kidding

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