Front chains...

[curtisbyrne]

i assume your talking about those little clips on the end that hold the end plate on,just take a tooth and one of those clips from the new box of chain and play with for a bit to get familial with how they work. i like to use a little fine point flat SD and pry one end off the tooth and just pull down or up to remove it off the other tooth. like i said just play with it for a bit and you will be able to picture how i do it or a different way that you will come up with. start in the rear also they are easier to put on and work your way to the bow. thats where it gets crafty. also notice how there are two plates in the middle and one plate on the end, for the front or hard ones to put on i just use one plate in the middle and one on the end followed by the spring clip.
anyone against what i said about usuing only one inside plate tell me! is it still strong just with one plate?

[Kris W]

. also notice how there are two plates in the middle and one plate on the end, for the front or hard ones to put on i just use one plate in the middle and one on the end followed by the spring clip.
anyone against what i said about usuing only one inside plate tell me! is it still strong just with one plate?

I'm no expert, obviously. But ...I don't I think that's a good idea bud, the MasterLink is the weakest point in the chain already, I wouldn't suggest leaving one of those metal plates out. Not to mention I think it may create play in that link and play might create even more weakness. Just a thought.

Edit: also, I forgot to mention that the chains that I got from the Argo Dealer are tsubaki ! Ive heard good things about them, i think they are a good chain, am i right ?

[curtisbyrne]

yes tsubaki is good quality! so does anyone think thats a safety issue with having just 1 plate on the inside?

[curtisbyrne]

???

[Mike]

Yes, use the correct plates as intended. Don't do something different just because they are difficult to install.

[curtisbyrne]

so not even just using one plate in the middle instead of two?

[Kris W]

No bro, i think it comes with 2 for a reason. It really wasnt any harder to get the second plate on, and you've already got the master in so it's just a matter of sliding it back to the middle, popping in the middle plate and then pushing it back into place. Shouldn't be too hard.

[curtisbyrne]

alright thanks kris,its just that my needle nose pliers would twist a little when holding the chain only making it easy to put one middle link in instead of two but i will fix this now while i have the top off!!

[Canadian_Zuk]

alright thanks kris,its just that my needle nose pliers would twist a little when holding the chain only making it easy to put one middle link in instead of two but i will fix this now while i have the top off!!

Use 2 nylon zip ties(one on each row) around the master to hold the chain together while you pop the keeper off and slip the 2nd plate in. Easy job. I use a flat head screw driver and a hammer to install and remove the keepers. tap it off, tap it on.

[glen1971]

Set the splice up so it ends on the top of a sprocket and it is a bit easier.. At least the few I've done.. Tyraps help.. When I fed the front ones around the sprocket, I used a piece of hay wire and fed that in first and had the new chain tied to it.. Then I made sure the front tire was able to be turned by hand to help line things up.. Let the air out and jack it up if needed...

IMO.. If you want to leave the spacer plates out of a master link, then I'd make sure you pack two things with you when you head out.. A good pair of walking boots and a big lunch for when you break down.. Not IF but when.. You will be creating your own "weak link" (literally) and when it breaks you will have yourself to be mad at..

[philipatmaxfour]

front chains

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that's funny