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[Rock Doctor]

Hi Again

Just a quick remark. Rock Doctor talkes about a whining noise caused by chain wind-up. In some years we have removed the rear drive chains and basically made an idler wheel out of the rear tires. No illeffects no more noise and greater ground speed. One word of caution do not break an axle with rear drivechains removed as this will take the tension out of your track.
Good Luck.
Argo Twins

I have heard from guys that removed the rear drive chain when on tracks, but never tried it. Do you just do it for winter operation, or does it help in the summer on tracks as well?
Your instruction manual is different than the one I read, I think the one I read said to run tire pressures at 5psi front 7psi middle tires, and 6psi rear (might be a little off on those). I have always found those pressures too high, and settled on about 4.5psi. The differance might have something to do with different tires? Maybe.
I do the same with my 6x6, and have never driven out of a track on it, but I have lost a track a couple times with the 8x8 in rough terrain.

[86 Argo Twins]

Rear Drivechain Removal

Hi Rock Doctor

We only have the tracks on the Argo in the winter and the sloppy season in spring and fall, driving in snow and mud. We're not the right ones to answer if it would make a differance on hard surface, sorry.
As far as tire preasure goes, our book goes back to 1983 and Super Track instructions are from 1985. There were 3 different tires mentioned in the manual. 1. Standard Goodyear 20 X 11.00 - 8 NHS 2 ply Runamuk, 2.5 - 3 psi
2. Goodyear Rawhide Terra Tire 21 X 11.00 - 8 NHS, 5 psi Max.
3. Goodyear Superterra-Grip 23 X 10.50 - 12 NHS 2 ply, 6 psi Max
As far as the Super Track installation Guide goes. Runamuks only with 2.5 psi Max preasure.
The other question of course is how accurate are different tire gauges at that low a preasure.
Maybe someone else can jump in with an answer about Removed rear Chains in the Summer time.
Argo Twins

[Rock Doctor]

Do you know when they went from the 20" Runamucks to the 22" Runamucks? It must have been sometime after your manual was printed, as they are not mentioned in it.
Do you put many hours on your tracks? I can hardy believe you have never replaced a segment with the number of hours you have on your machine. I, litteraly, have a small pile of worn out segments. Most of them are worn out from the outside (have gotten too thin, and are in danger of breaking).
I can be a little hard on my equipment sometimes, and they have to work pretty hard to get where I want them to go. I try not to run tracks on hard/rocky ground in the summer, but sometimes it's just part of the trip.


RD

[Beardefence]

My Argo manual for a 2003 conquest states no higher than 3 p.s.i. in tires when using tracks. I matter of fact just got back inside from lowering the air pressure in the tires on the argo to 3 P.S.I.. The tempertature just went up to minus-6 from minus -45 and my tire pressure went up to 3.5. so i lowered it. I use my argo for plowing snow and we have had a cold spell for about 4 weeks. I am glad i have a cab and a heater and think it is time to take off the snow plow and go do some ice fishing at a walleye lake. I just run the 3P.S.I. because the manual tells me to not go higher but i can see that other people run higher and i think i will do some experimentation with various pressures to see how the track performs. Has anybody ever had a pin come out when they were operating their machine? Happy New Year to All.

[akpride]

tracks

Don't know alot about tracks but I had a problem with loose tracks on my 01 bigfoot and I put all new pins in my super tracks and it made a big difference! I recomend it I bought by rod from a steel ditributer and it was more than half the price I just had to cut it.

[86 Argo Twins]

Don't know for sure!

Hi Rock Doctor

We are not 100% sure when they changed from 20" to 22" Tires.
We still have brochures up to 1989 when they still used the 20" tires.
Then there is a gap in our list of brochures and it starts again in 1993 when they are already advertising 22" tires, so it must have been sometime between 1989 and 1993.
We are guessing that out of the 1200hrs on the Argo 900hrs of thouse were with tracks on as we used to feed the cattle with the Argo in late fall to early spring. They never really ran on rough surfaces and we are sure that snow as it works its way into the hinge part of the segments will act as a lubricant, same as the nylon sliders on a snowmobile. The other thing is that we never run more than 2.5 - 3 psi in the tires.
We will try to include a recent picture, if we can figure out how. The Track Guides are not even worn but the center of the still original tires are almost bald now.

[chapy]

Hi Again

Just a quick remark. Rock Doctor talkes about a whining noise caused by chain wind-up. In some years we have removed the rear drive chains and basically made an idler wheel out of the rear tires. No illeffects no more noise and greater ground speed. One word of caution do not break an axle with rear drivechains removed as this will take the tension out of your track.
Good Luck.
Argo Twins

Sorry to bring back an old post but I had to tell of my experience.Today I had to tighten my chains but couldn't because the tracks wouldn't allow it. So I decided to take the back chains off and give it a try. I'm glad I didn't go far because All yhat happened is the front two axels just spun in the tracks when I tried to go up even the smallest hill. So I went back and tried to put my chains back on and found out I had to take the tracks off to get the chains back on. Wow what a mess i had myself in. Lucky for me I'm getting fast at oinstaling the tracks so it wasn't a big deal . I just won't try running without the chains again.

[Rock Doctor]

Sorry to bring back an old post but I had to tell of my experience.Today I had to tighten my chains but couldn't because the tracks wouldn't allow it. So I decided to take the back chains off and give it a try. I'm glad I didn't go far because All yhat happened is the front two axels just spun in the tracks when I tried to go up even the smallest hill. So I went back and tried to put my chains back on and found out I had to take the tracks off to get the chains back on. Wow what a mess i had myself in. Lucky for me I'm getting fast at oinstaling the tracks so it wasn't a big deal . I just won't try running without the chains again.

Thanks for the info, I had heard of guys removing the back chains, but I think they had done it to 8x8's.

How were you going to "tighten" your chains? Remove a link, or am I missing something here

RD

[chapy]

RD, I was just going to take up the slack with the tensioner but the slack was at the top of the chain and not on the bottom where the tensioner is. And I wasn't able to spin the back tire to put the slack on the bottom. Still not sure if I made any sense?