kohler in 836x6?

[spits]

I have a tired 16 tech 0160 in my 83 6x6 Argo.Has anyone put an M18 kohler in one of these machines? the parts for the 16 are discontinued and i already have the 18 in my snowblower.......and it is spring. Any help would be appreciated.

[eightwheeler]

Yes, do it, you will love it BUT BUT BUT some tejunksies in Argo's are threaded shaft so if you need to use the clutch from it you need to modify it to fit, not hard to do but it is not a direct bolt on

[spits]

re:kohler in 6x6

Thanks for the advice. Can not find a carb for the 16 anyway. I'll start looking for a snowblower engine. The clutch is keyed not threaded. Is it basicly a boltin or am I going to need to modify my mounts? It's going in any way but a heads up would be good.

[spits]

Re: kohler in 6x6

Thought it was good idea at the time.It don't fit. the engine is too long (or wide) to fit without some major adjustment in the body work. I need 31 inches and have 26. Oh well .Back to the drawing board.

[Swamper]

Hey Spits,
I have a 83 6X6 that I just finished putting in a Briggs and Stratton V-Twin 16HP to replace the Tech that broke a rod back in Dec. I used a 1 in hole saw and cut four more holes to the right about 1 1/4 inches. I also had to trim about 3/4 of an inch off the front to get it to fit. I replaced the idler chains and moved the powerpack assy back enough that I now have about 3/4 clearance between the body at the front and the front valve cover. The hood don't fit too good, but I have a plan to fix that.
The 83's had flat twins in them. Both the Briggs and the Koehler. I have a service manual for 1977 to 1987 6X6 and 8X8 and a parts manual if you are interested.
Cheers,
Al

[spits]

Thanks Swamper. I tried to install my flat Kohler twin but the length of the engine and tranny seem to add up to more than the hole I'm putting it in. I just nicely had the machine up and running when the engine wouldn't run right. I guess I'll drill out the rivets, pull the top off again, and see if I can make it fit. It is hard to get the feel of things on the floor. I picked up a 15 hp Off-shore at Princess for $399.00 that would run the snowblower nicely. I do have a service manual from OTG. Maybe things will fit in with the top off. I wanted a project machine buuutttt.......I guess the saying is true"Be careful what you wish for....". Where are you located in Ontario?

[eightwheeler]

I put a 23h vanguard V-twin in an old '87 same body style as yours, i think your flat twin would fit, would just have to modify the engine mounts

[spits]

I would LOVE to put a 16 or 18 V-twin Vanguard in the Argo. It would probably fit nice. Problem is financial. Just replaced the family car, truck needs major work and at the end of June I'm jobless..... so far. ANYHOOT we'll just truck on and pull the top and see what we shoehorn in. I put a 350 chev in a ford ranger one time. Actually made a truck out of it. ( fords and 2-strokes make somewhat decent boat anchors-no offence)

[Swamper]

Hey Spits,
I am located south east of London. North of Port Burwell on the highway.
Cheers,
Al

[spits]

update on the 83 6x6 kohler install

In a former thread I mentioned about putting a 18 Kohler in 83 6x6 that had a 16 tech. I ended up getting a 15 hp from Princess Auto. After a long and endless foray (or so it seemed) I had the engine mounted. New exhaust,new breather,and a fuel pump as the engine was gravity fed.
The pump was too strong so I had to run a return line to the tank. That's where I ran into problems. Too much fuel going into the return line. After some experimenting I got the right flow. Had a very short ride-5 feet one way,5 the other when the carb when for a dump. That thing would not run without the choke on full. So I said to myself"Self, the engine is going back."So now I'm starting all over again. I work in research and development so this time I may do some actual research.....nah, the other way is more fun. The 18 is sitting in the Argo, looks like it will fit,maybe without TOO much trouble.Any way I'll keep you posted....might even take some pics if I remember.

[Swamper]

Spits, remind us again please, is the 18HP a twin or a single? If it is a twin what are the dimensions compared to a 18HP Briggs? I just put in a twin 16HP Briggs into my 83 6x6 and I might be able to help you with some answers if you haven't already figured some of it out.
Cheers,
Al

[spits]

It is an 18 hp Kohler m twin cycinder.

[ARGOJIM]

The biggest problem you'll have is the body, all the twins had the magnum style body which is taller. example in newer machines is air cooled vangaurd machines and water cooled kawasaki or kohler machines that have about the same hieght difference in the body.

[spits]

I kinda wondered about that. If I set the engine in on blocks, the top is really close to the front exhaust manifold. I may have to fabricate a steel manifold that sits closer to the block. As I have to make the mounts any way,I'll try to place the engine as close to the tranny as possible and as high as possible. that will give some room without changing the body, other than the hood. I am in the process of changing the tranny in my truck, a GM 4x4, so the Argo is on the back burner. As I progress I'll take some pics and let everyone interested know how I am making out.

[spits]

tranny's in trucks rolln'. I made some new mounts , and bolted the 18 horse in. After some body changes(yea, right,SOME?) body changes, the top sits down, the exhaust clears, the belt lines up etc. etc. I took some pics as I did things but have to really engineer some mesh to make the engine area(external) look like I might know what I was doing(which I personally don't think is true as I have been reminded by my colleges at work). Next project is the exhaust.