I think the way the economy is now ,and money being tighter than it has in some time there should be a new entry level model.I know ODG has a frontier 480,but I am thinking something in the 4-5000.00 range so more people could afford a newer model.6995.00 is alot of money for most people,I wouldnt call that entry level.Just my .02 cents worth. Eddie
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Originally posted by eddieb1965 View PostI think the way the economy is now ,and money being tighter than it has in some time there should be a new entry level model.I know ODG has a frontier 480,but I am thinking something in the 4-5000.00 range so more people could afford a newer model.6995.00 is alot of money for most people,I wouldnt call that entry level.Just my .02 cents worth. Eddie
'99 Conquest 104hp turbocharged intercooled EFI Chevy Sprint conversion
"Argo 8x8's only" type of guy
"old school Argo expert"
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If the Avenger 750 and Centaur is what they are focusing on then that looks to me like they dont give a crap about the recreational riders.I have owned a n Avenger,but found this to be to much machine for what I need.I have went to a Bigfoot model,but it was 8500.00.I think ODG could focus on the little guy (Affordable entry level performance machine)and still have the utility sales as well.If you want to get the AATV message out there then you need to get affordable machines to Joe public.
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Originally posted by eddieb1965 View PostIf the Avenger 750 and Centaur is what they are focusing on then that looks to me like they dont give a crap about the recreational riders.I have owned a n Avenger,but found this to be to much machine for what I need.I have went to a Bigfoot model,but it was 8500.00.I think ODG could focus on the little guy (Affordable entry level performance machine)and still have the utility sales as well.If you want to get the AATV message out there then you need to get affordable machines to Joe public.
I agree its dumb. If you want to get people to buy your high-end stuff you need a product to let them get a taste of it. A entry level AATV has its place IMO.
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After being an Argo dealer for almost 5 years ,I can say more sales are lost by not being able to offer a model to compete with 4- wheeler prices. I had 1 guy go and buy 2 4 wheelers after he demoed an Argo.(he loved the machine)Even after explaining how an Argo will carry more passengers ,carry you across water,and haveing more options available,speed is the only drawback I couldnt explain over a 4- wheeler,people still balked at the price.Then a few mths. later you see or talk to them and find out they bought a new something ATV.ODG always had a 500.00 price increase every year for the same machines.This forced me out of the AATV buisness ,ODG will eventually price themselves out of buisness.I would think ODG would want to enhance the AATV industry not limit the market anymore than it is.
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( QUOTE ) " ODG always had a 500.00 price increase every year for the same machines.This forced me out of the AATV buisness ,ODG will eventually price themselves out of buisness.I would think ODG would want to enhance the AATV industry not limit the market anymore than it is."
eddie1965 ,
VERY good point!Last edited by mudbug3; 10-03-2010, 12:55 PM.
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Originally posted by eddieb1965 View PostAfter being an Argo dealer for almost 5 years ,I can say more sales are lost by not being able to offer a model to compete with 4- wheeler prices. I had 1 guy go and buy 2 4 wheelers after he demoed an Argo.(he loved the machine)Even after explaining how an Argo will carry more passengers ,carry you across water,and haveing more options available,speed is the only drawback I couldnt explain over a 4- wheeler,people still balked at the price.Then a few mths. later you see or talk to them and find out they bought a new something ATV.ODG always had a 500.00 price increase every year for the same machines.This forced me out of the AATV buisness ,ODG will eventually price themselves out of buisness.I would think ODG would want to enhance the AATV industry not limit the market anymore than it is.
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I call the company this and ask a ? they said call next week and we call talk about the new model
it coming
like my wife say's you get what you pay for. I am will to pay for a argo. the Mudd Ox is a hydruliac leak waiting to happen. In Fl the heat from the pump would cook us..
looking forward to the new model
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Eddieb,You hit the nail on the head,I'm fairly new to the 6 wheelers,I have an argo but it is used and i did'nt pay alot for it,That is the reason i have one.There is no way in hell i would pay that rediculous price for a new one.There is no way it cost that much to build them,You take the cheapest argo or maxll and compare the price to a 4 wheeler of the same price and the technology of that 4 wheeler is twice as much.I also ride polaris 4 wheelers and they are way more technical than my argo.For the price of a 6wheeler they should run 40 mph and have a springer kit.If someone would build this they would sell twice as many machines.I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way.sigpic
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Originally posted by coosaridgerider View PostEddieb,You hit the nail on the head,I'm fairly new to the 6 wheelers,I have an argo but it is used and i did'nt pay alot for it,That is the reason i have one.There is no way in hell i would pay that rediculous price for a new one.There is no way it cost that much to build them,You take the cheapest argo or maxll and compare the price to a 4 wheeler of the same price and the technology of that 4 wheeler is twice as much.I also ride polaris 4 wheelers and they are way more technical than my argo.For the price of a 6wheeler they should run 40 mph and have a springer kit.If someone would build this they would sell twice as many machines.I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way.
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Maybe we should contact Polaris, Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha you know... the quad builders and see if they would try to build an amphib. I for one agree THERE IS NO WAY THAT THESE MACHINES SHOULD COST WHAT THEY DO! I mean - have any of you guys tested one of the Razors --OH-MY-GOD-SCARY, and they can be bought new for about $10,000 it's sickening.DESTRUCTION is just a couple of vowels down the street from DISTRACTION
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Originally posted by brushcutter View PostMaybe we should contact Polaris, Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha you know... the quad builders and see if they would try to build an amphib. I for one agree THERE IS NO WAY THAT THESE MACHINES SHOULD COST WHAT THEY DO! I mean - have any of you guys tested one of the Razors --OH-MY-GOD-SCARY, and they can be bought new for about $10,000 it's sickening.
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My two cents..
Originally posted by Roger S View PostCan Ontario Drive & Gear figure out how to design decent skid steer trans?I'm not holding my breath.
If they do, it's about time.
Personally.. A hydraulic driven machine could prove a bit of a challenge if it decides to die in the middle of no where.. The EFI systems are proven technology and so is the braking system.. Afterall the addition of a fan to cool the slotted rotors was a huge improvement..
Each to their own, but I think I'd keep tried and true...Avenger..
Just my thoughts...
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