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  • Would a pair of U joints work as well, instead of CV joints. I hear from mud bogging crowd that they are a bit mor suited to the exposure to elements then CV which can give up after water or dirt get into the boot

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    • Originally posted by jwiereng View Post
      Would a pair of U joints work as well, instead of CV joints. I hear from mud bogging crowd that they are a bit mor suited to the exposure to elements then CV which can give up after water or dirt get into the boot
      They used u joints in old school springer. I believe the degree of the angle is beyond there suggested rating. cv's can take it better.

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      • angles

        What degree angles would a whipper style springer be subjected to? I am not a trigonometric specialist, or really not a specialist in any type of math, but from whippers posts the suspension adds 9 inches to his width, and ther is 6 inches of travel in total. This means that there is 3 inches of travel from mid to either extreme. Using the tangent ratio, such that tanX = opposite/adjacent where X is the angle in degrees, and opposite is 9 and adjacent is 3. Therefore the angle is roughly 18.4 degrees.
        I would agree that this angle is a lot to ask from a U joint. Considering the speed of 60 MPH the tire rotation must about 850 RPM.
        I see some U joints from Princess Auto rated for 15 degree continuous at 1000 rpm. They are 30$ each

        check my math, I might be off, not my forte

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        • Originally posted by jwiereng View Post
          What degree angles would a whipper style springer be subjected to? I am not a trigonometric specialist, or really not a specialist in any type of math, but from whippers posts the suspension adds 9 inches to his width, and ther is 6 inches of travel in total. This means that there is 3 inches of travel from mid to either extreme. Using the tangent ratio, such that tanX = opposite/adjacent where X is the angle in degrees, and opposite is 9 and adjacent is 3. Therefore the angle is roughly 18.4 degrees.
          I would agree that this angle is a lot to ask from a U joint. Considering the speed of 60 MPH the tire rotation must about 850 RPM.
          I see some U joints from Princess Auto rated for 15 degree continuous at 1000 rpm. They are 30$ each

          check my math, I might be off, not my forte
          too much time....

          Why change what is working?

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          • Springers!

            Originally posted by jwiereng View Post
            What degree angles would a whipper style springer be subjected to? I am not a trigonometric specialist, or really not a specialist in any type of math, but from whippers posts the suspension adds 9 inches to his width, and ther is 6 inches of travel in total. This means that there is 3 inches of travel from mid to either extreme. Using the tangent ratio, such that tanX = opposite/adjacent where X is the angle in degrees, and opposite is 9 and adjacent is 3. Therefore the angle is roughly 18.4 degrees.
            I would agree that this angle is a lot to ask from a U joint. Considering the speed of 60 MPH the tire rotation must about 850 RPM.
            I see some U joints from Princess Auto rated for 15 degree continuous at 1000 rpm. They are 30$ each

            check my math, I might be off, not my forte
            Wayyyyyyyyy over my head on this one....
            i'ld prefer to leave it to the scientists..lol

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            • I agree with you LarryW, why change what is working. I was not suggesting that whipper should change his, but I was considering alternative methods to the same end, for people who want to build a similar rig, but can't get a hold of CV joints

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              • Originally posted by jwiereng View Post
                I agree with you LarryW, why change what is working. I was not suggesting that whipper should change his, but I was considering alternative methods to the same end, for people who want to build a similar rig, but can't get a hold of CV joints
                Oh, I see. Best bet is to find some cheap ones from an automotive and use them. Have to look around and research what is best price and easy to use.

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                • The Springers & Company

                  Last edited by whipper-ag; 07-10-2016, 02:58 PM.

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                  • Great pictures. I loved the shout-outs to the Carolina boys and of course the air bud shots were some of the best.

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                    • Great video!!! Hey Whipper, I see the tuned pipe is missing from the Scorpion. What powerplant is in it now?

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                      • great video!

                        great videos Whipper! Great pictures to
                        Last edited by Air Bud; 02-21-2009, 07:32 PM.
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                        • awesome pictures !!! i'm not afraid to admit that i'm jealous
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                          • SWEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT great vid whipper love it and lewis you are the man thanks pal. alley sez WE are comeing to az . robbie alley hunter
                            1999 max 2 18 b&s 22 tires custom . new max iv 23 k 26 i/n tires brown . ht cable promark winch . new toy 1972 attex st400 400ccjlo and she will be bad . ( the frog ) if it don't float with out you getting wet . don't bring it ! R.I.P sage rogers 4 11 09 . you can't fix stuped !!!!! raceone 3 .)

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                            • jwiereng, It had never occured to me, but the change in axle length during suspension travel is in the cv joints. A good reason to use them. Whipper used VW joints.
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                              • Last edited by whipper-ag; 07-10-2016, 02:59 PM.

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