my new 6x6

[murdock346]

well guys im new to this but i got rid of my suzuki samurai for a 2001 max 2 with a 14 horse ive always wanted one and now i have it . but a few questions if someone doesnt mind answering. the guy i got it from said he turned it down for his son so he couldnt go to fast how do turn it back up i know they arent speed demons but im pretty sure a squirrel outran me. second question what is the best direction for the tires to be treads forward or backwards, third is there anything special as far as maintenance goes , i got a new set of chains with it but he said they were replaced no too long ago before he got it. thats all i can think about for now any help is greatly appreciated and if anyone is in the alabama area and wants to ride let me know . thanks by the way its amazing how many people dont know what these are

[jpswift1]

It sure is disapointing that so many people are unaware of these amazing machines. Anyways, welcome to the site! I'm not sure how the guy turned down the machine, but if I were you I would look for a 16HP Briggs Vanguard carb on ebay and put it on your machine. It was probably turned down by tinkering with the throttle linkage and/or around the govenor possibly. The 14 and 16HP engines are the same displacement (480cc) except the 16HP has a much larger carb venturi. It would be a simple upgrade to gain 2HP and about 4lbs/ft of torque. I did the same thing on the engine that I am using in my Attex 6x6 project. I would just keep the chains tight and keep them lubed with some quality chain lube. Also, use some good marine grease in the bearings (inner and outter) to keep them in good condition as well. The best way for the tires to be facing is backwards since it helps the machine "paddle" better, especially in the water. Congrats on the purchase and we look forward to hearing more from you and seeing pictures of your rig.

[murdock346]

well i adjusted the cable positon on the throttle on the stick and then on the rear linkage but now its idling faster it goes faster just doesnt want to sit there lil feller ready to go when in gear

[rdr]

well i adjusted the cable positon on the throttle on the stick and then on the rear linkage but now its idling faster it goes faster just doesnt want to sit there lil feller ready to go when in gear

look on the outher side of the carb and the philps screw turn it counterclock wise. and it should ideal back down . welcom to the site . robbie .

[liflod]

Don't adjust the idle with the screw on the carb.

The correct method of adjusting the idle is bending the tang on the governed idle spring.

Also, when adjusting the throttle cable, let the engine idle to get a feel for how much slack you leave in the cable. If you loosen the cable and the idle drops down, pull the slack out of the cable and tighten it.

[liflod]

http://www.6x6world.com/forums/argo-atvs/632-adjusting-idle-vanguard-motor.html#post4926

[MaxRules]

liflod - that is interesting info. I have heard of that but never once adjusted idle with those tabs. Do you know what benefit that could have?

[jerseybigfoot]

Good info liflod. There seems to be a fine balance on some B&S Governors between obtaining the idle and the proper high speed setting. and the only way is to play with bending the Tangs. My Kohler is easier to set up.
I was considering scrapping the governor on my ATTEX for throttle direct and installing an electronic rev limiter. The rev limiter was a little pricey.

Max rules set up a modified briggs with a Mikuni carb. We would all be interested on how that worked out.

[liflod]

The spring adjusts the governed idle, the set screw adjusts the minimum idle. If you adjust the screw only, the engine tends to surge when you let off the throttle. I would recommend holding the butterfly against the set screw and setting it as low as the engine will run. Once that is set, adjust the spring to your desired idle speed. If the governer "bounces" against the set screw, the governor looses control and will want to surge. The other adjustable tang is supposed to touch the governor linkage when idling. I've had very good luck adjusting the idle this way.

I'll have to re-read the manual and see if my memory jives with it.

[murdock346]

ill have to try that method ive got a manual that came with it but that would be too easy. on a lighter note how about we were fixing my seat where the wood had rotted had one or two cold drinks cranked it up and the idle is high enough where it took of and rammed my buddy's new shed door and knocked it off i told him lowes charged him too much. his reply was i dont think they tested it against a 6x6 . oh well door fixed 6x6 still not thanks for the info

[scott]

scott

To correctly adjust your vangaurd, first set your throttle cable so that there is no tension on it when you are not touching the throttle lever. At this point you can adjust the RPM with the idle screw, it should be around 1600 to 1800 RPM at idle. When you compress the throttle lever all the way, the lever that the throttle cable is hooked to should move until it comes against a stop. this stop may be adjustable and would determine your high RPM. You may also be able to change govenor springs (the greater the tension, the higher the RPM). The govenor spring is hooked to the govenor arm on one side, and to a lever that is controlled by the throttle cable on the other side, this lever can be bent to put more tension on the spring resulting in a higher RPM. Your high speed RPM should be 3600 RPM. A small tachometer would be usefull to set your high and low RPM. They are very easy to use, you just connect it to the spark plug wire.