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  • #31
    I tried to add this to the last post, but my "security token" is continually missing....

    So, I'll just keep it short and say "The frame is home!"




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    • #32
      This sure is fertile ground for crazy ideas.. a station wagon max IV.. let's see, an aluminum tilt bed ala wrecker style, with a winch, so RD can load his moose/buffalo..
      To Invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. (Thomas Edison)

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      • #33
        You know? I was actually thinking about making a big old bed on the back and using it for storage/utility. I wouldn't have to worry about welding together two uppers that way, and i could cut down on cost quite a bit. I really like the look of the looooong green upper body, though. Who knows what'll strike my fancy when that time comes. The green "blem" uppers at RI are still megabucks, and I'd need two. Two megabucks is....well... expensive.

        Because HDPE is such a "mobile" material, and sags over time compared to ABS, I'll need to bolster up the sides somehow. MaxIV's sag considerably over a "six wheel" span; can you imagine eight? Perhaps an internal 1 1/4" ID roll cage going around the inside of the upper? It would tie to the frame (be PART of the frame) and could even help to support a winch mount on the front. And rear. And both sides.

        And support a cannon.

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        • #34
          Well that's another consideration.. gun mount platforms, for potato gun warefare, or maybe just automatic paint gun weapons.
          To Invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. (Thomas Edison)

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          • #35
            ya know,

            Originally posted by hydromike View Post
            You know? I was actually thinking about making a big old bed on the back and using it for storage/utility. I wouldn't have to worry about welding together two uppers that way, and i could cut down on cost quite a bit. I really like the look of the looooong green upper body, though. Who knows what'll strike my fancy when that time comes. The green "blem" uppers at RI are still megabucks, and I'd need two. Two megabucks is....well... expensive.

            Because HDPE is such a "mobile" material, and sags over time compared to ABS, I'll need to bolster up the sides somehow. MaxIV's sag considerably over a "six wheel" span; can you imagine eight? Perhaps an internal 1 1/4" ID roll cage going around the inside of the upper? It would tie to the frame (be PART of the frame) and could even help to support a winch mount on the front. And rear. And both sides.

            And support a cannon.

            ~m
            ya know, dad was thinkin' of maby makin' a paint-ball tank out of the big-foot,
            this would be THE MOST UNSTOPABLE tag team EVER!!!!!!!!!!
            we would demolish everything!
            "Ooo, neckties.....contracts.....HIGH VOLTAGE!!"

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            • #36
              I think an invasion of Busco is in order.... I need a bigger trailer. Big 5 is gonna wanna play, too.

              ~m
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              • #37
                WOW a max limo

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                • #38
                  It'd be the Max the Partridge family would have. Seriously is a T20 strong enough to run 8 axles?? Just thinking for clutch and maindrive on its alot more to push.
                  The feat of sinking a max is a badge of honor.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by bierbower37 View Post
                    Seriously is a T20 strong enough to run 8 axles?? Just thinking for clutch and maindrive on its alot more to push.
                    What did Attex use in their Bigfoot prototype?
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by bierbower37 View Post
                      Seriously is a T20 strong enough to run 8 axles?? Just thinking for clutch and maindrive on its alot more to push.
                      I'm confident that the T-20 can handle it just fine. (I look like a dweeb.)



                      When you add up the total gain in weight, it's in the same weight class as Big 5, my Attex Tank Trainer. Big 5 weighs in at well over a half ton, I figure, and it moves around effortlessly. The greatest amount of weight will be two more wheels/and tires. The additon of another two feet of HDPE is nominal. Four more bearings, about 8-10 more feet of chain, two axles, and I'm guessing about 30 pounds more in added frame. I'm eliminating a lot of little stuff, but you get the idea.... I'll probably add a lot of steel reinforcement, but all-in-all the T-20 is a heavy duty piece of equipment and should handle the addition of weight just fine. The Buffalo Truck weighs in at 1135, and has a 2135 pound (!!!!) gross weight. I hope to come in well under that.

                      Originally posted by George View Post
                      What did Attex use in their Bigfoot prototype?
                      There were two distinct drives on the Bigfoot, I believe. Two engines, and two transmissions, one for each side. I figure the frame of that Bigfoot had to weigh in at over a ton, itself. Have you seen pictures? EEeeks. It's an aircraft carrier.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by George View Post
                        What did Attex use in their Bigfoot prototype?
                        Hi George! Attex used a pair of 16HP Briggs and a pair of Granite State transmissions to drive their BIGFOOT prototype. Each side operated independant of one another.

                        A T-20 is a very strong, durable, and in my opinion (and many other 6x6World members') the best AATV transmission ever built, so yes it will hold up just fine in an 8x8 application. Attex made their 8x8 Military tank trainers with the T-20 in them and they did just fine. Hydromike has 25" Rawhide III's on his T-20 equipped Attex 8x8 and it does great.
                        "Looks like you have a problem with your 4 wheeler........you're missin' two wheels there"
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by George View Post
                          What did Attex use in their Bigfoot prototype?
                          The one I saw had the same transmissions as the trail boss. So I was told anyways. But one on each side. The engines where missing and not sure what engine they used but there was one on each side like hydromike stated.

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                          • #43
                            Place your bets. My money is on the T-20 working just fine for this Big Boy. The biggest problem for Mike will be making sure that he can keep the wheels on it. He has a tendency to lose 1 or 2 once in a while. No Pressure, Mike.

                            Bridget

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                            • #44
                              Mike when you posted about a "big old bed in the back" Ithought you were talking RV. Mikes RVAATV. Probably enough room to buid in Attex popup. Add the springer package and you have the ultimate offroad RV.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Model Citizen View Post
                                The biggest problem for Mike will be making sure that he can keep the wheels on it. He has a tendency to lose 1 or 2 once in a while. No Pressure, Mike.


                                Bridget
                                I'll be using a stock MaxIV setup, FYI. NO stupid hubs, NO stupid 1" axles... hey, anything could happen though, right?
                                (I have 3 machines with 1" axles. No offense intended....)

                                Originally posted by jerseybigfoot View Post
                                Mike when you posted about a "big old bed in the back" Ithought you were talking RV. Mikes RVAATV. Probably enough room to buid in Attex popup. Add the springer package and you have the ultimate offroad RV.
                                I could add a gas grill, a shower, cable TV... Yeah, it's going to be long! SPEAKING of which... Can I get an Argo 8x8 or a MuddOx owner to measure total overall length? I want to see how much shorter I am, and to see how much "AATV envy" I can expect.


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