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  • Max IV Springer

    Last edited by whipper-ag; 07-10-2016, 09:56 AM.

  • #2
    This is what I've been waiting for!!!


    I'm starting to save my pennies for the kit!!!

    Mike
    "Don't worry my Dad's a TV repairman, he has an excellent set of tools..I can fix It"

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    • #3
      Awesome!

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      • #4
        Okay, the important questions...

        This is an earlier pig, so does it use the same smaller bearings as the RIM? Are you going to heighten the frame rails to accomodate the larger flanges if it does? One of the best changes that I've seen on the Max IV is actually sitting on a bench at RI. They've moved the T-20 forward on the frame so it sits under the rear seat, and lowered the engine to a practical and logical location. It sits down on the frame now, rather than the pedestel it was on before. It looked bone-simple, and I think the benefits would be incredible. Lower C.O.G., simple access to the trans., etc. Since this'll undoubtedly have 1-1/4" splined shafts, are you going the extra mile to change the whole chain setup? This project looks like it could be the most fun...

        ~m
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        • #5
          Mike,

          That's interesting about the Max IV are they going to start producing that for 2008. I wonder would they have a retro kit to do that to the older ones. It sure would be nice to have better access to the T-20

          Mike
          "Don't worry my Dad's a TV repairman, he has an excellent set of tools..I can fix It"

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          • #6
            I've been waiting for them to move the T-20 in the IVs and drop the engine down to the frame. I thought about doing the same on my old red Max, but it looked like too much effort. I wonder what else they are going to change to keep up with the Argos newer designs? This is a major change for the Max IV. I think its the first in 30 years !!! This could have me looking at a brand new machine when it comes out !! With the engine sitting lower in the tub, they can push the seats back even farther. Can you sneak in and get us some pictures?

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            • #7
              It would also be nice if they mounted the T-20 and engine to its own cradle so you can remove the engine and transmission in one package. I assume they are driving the center axles from the T-20? Without the engine pedestal in the back, you could even clean out the tub in the rear corners. This is great !!! Please get some more info from the inside sources so you can share it with us.

              Maybe a modern body design in the works?? Built in beer holders? Storage? Built in cooler? Bigger tires? Lower price?? Bigger drain plugs?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by liflod View Post
                ! Please get some more info from the inside sources so you can share it with us. Maybe a modern body design in the works?? Built in beer holders? Storage? Built in cooler? Bigger tires? Lower price?? Bigger drain plugs?
                Wow. I didn't mean this to cause excitement. The "new and exciting" frame mod has been sitting there in it's current condition (not a bolt tightened/loosened, or anything changed) in at least a year. I would wager more like 2 years. As much as I sound like a curmudgeon, I really don't think there's going to be anything really ground breaking as far as big changes go. The body is still generally the same as Mr. Gerber's from 1975, and the frame really hasn't gone through much of a change since then, either. Okay; bigger bearings, splined axles, and a bit more leg room for the rear passengers. You can argue that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it...", but come on... 32 years....

                ~m
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                • #9
                  Holly Cow it sounds like there going to make a Hustler.
                  Acta non verba

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                  • #10
                    Mike,
                    You're a buzzkill

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                    • #11
                      sweetttttttttttt anytime frame on these mods .
                      1999 max 2 18 b&s 22 tires custom . new max iv 23 k 26 i/n tires brown . ht cable promark winch . new toy 1972 attex st400 400ccjlo and she will be bad . ( the frog ) if it don't float with out you getting wet . don't bring it ! R.I.P sage rogers 4 11 09 . you can't fix stuped !!!!! raceone 3 .)

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                      • #12
                        [QUOTE=liflod;6079]It would also be nice if they mounted the T-20 and engine to its own cradle so you can remove the engine and transmission in one package. [QUOTE]

                        That would be great! Reminds me of another hobby of mine. The downside would be that you could not pull them without a hoist but I guess you could still unbolt either in that case.
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                        • #13
                          Last edited by whipper-ag; 07-10-2016, 09:53 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Last edited by whipper-ag; 07-10-2016, 09:54 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by whipper-ag View Post
                              And last but not least what do I do 2-stroke? 4-stroke2-stroke4-stroke?
                              My vote would be for the inline 4 out of the Yamaha RX-1 sled. It comes in a turbo version, and it's a small, tight package. That actually might be a bit much for the T-20, but who knows? I'm not sure about the overall width of the engine, and if it'd fit in the bay. There are a few other turbo-4's out there, but this one's already set up for a (somewhat) comparably-weighted vehicle with a CVT. If I had a second vote, it would be for a liquid triple two stroke. I have a weakness for BIG Rotax engines, so I'd go with something along the lines of the 809, or the 999 trip. Throw a trio of Mikuni 44s on the back, some nice pipes, and you're in business. You've already corralled the reliable ponies. Maybe it's time for something a bit more....uh... twitchy?

                              Oh well, I've neither the time nor money for something so high-end right now. You decide!

                              ~m
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