Muscateer out for a drive

[riotwarrior]

Went to locate the road to a quad/walking trail head yesterday, pissing rain and such.

Just couple shots...









Was not a nice day, ride was around an hour, performed ok, still soooo needs a larger better secondary clutch, and that kubota engine in it.

I'm thinking 11" secondary with the diesel, perhaps a hi/low range box too...

Just wanted post some pics for now

Oh here is a vid the Superwifey shot
Muscateer AATV six wheeler - YouTube

LOL things a blast still have to work on the chain binding issue but it's improved since this video was taken some time ago...

Thanks for looking

Al

[thenewguy]

did you paint that or is that how they come?

[riotwarrior]

did you paint that or is that how they come?

Nope custom paint job by yers truly

build thread
Muscateer 6x6 I've been doddling and working on for years!!

hope that answers you

[riotwarrior]

One thing I've learned since the video in the link...is the judicious use of delicacy on the controls makes for the difference for most part in chains binding and making noise and not. The controls if used very delicately become quite like a surgeons instruments...

There is a very slight difference between too far , about right and not far enough, I have found I can indeed pull back gently on the controls to act as a brake, but it is extremely delicate.

Just a tad too far and you are instantly into reverse. This is not good and thus causes chain binding, something not good.

Now as I use it more and more on different terrain I gain more skills. I live on a flat plain area sorta and just bombing around the orchard isn't great for learning braking and fine motor control

This machine is from what I can tell a black sheep of the AATV family with it's Hagen/Rooter transmission and thus not well known.

[Andyman]

Nice shots nice paint work

[riotwarrior]

Nice shots nice paint work

Thank you very much.

Here are a couple just after completion in the newly planted peach orchard where I live.
















Hope ya all enjoy, it's a blast to drive this thing for sure...this was all prior to building the winch mount and such.

Lastly, from the first time I actually sat in the machine and operated it, I tore it apart, down to axle tubes and bare tub...rebuilt it painted it and all for one goal...a CAR show.

Here is what the kids look like when they can sit in and play with a display at a car show...the smiles of kids and parents taking pictures was worth all the work.



The paint job took over 3 hours to mask alone and then about another hour plus to paint the camo. I like it so much I'm painting my truck the same way eventually

Thanks for looking

E D I T

I just measured my clutch, and it appears it's a 780 model clutch. Now comes the issue of attempting to pull it off the engine...sure hope I can get it to release! Sure would be good, it's not a perfect clutch but it's not too bad of shape!

[guyfox]

Nice looking machine you have there......Great job on the rebuild.....Also love the background in your pics....Looks like a great place to live....

[countrycummins99]

so if you pull back all the way on your sticks it goes into reverse like a hydrostat machine? not just breaking?

[riotwarrior]

so if you pull back all the way on your sticks it goes into reverse like a hydrostat machine? not just breaking?

Yes forward / neutral / reverse each stick independently.

I can do skid steer and zero turn radius as in my video both are portrayed.

It uses annular pistons acting on a clutch system to engage the gears be it reverse or forward.

It's really quite effective, it's my chains that are just ever so slightly miss aligned and under hi torque turns there is enough deflection of the body to cause the binding.

Lots of fun because under power to controls do one thing and then under coasting the cause a different/opposite response..ugh

[jerseybigfoot]

T 20 transmissions react similar on coast and power steer. Maybe you can fit a resistance device against the laterals at the point you engage reverse. Attex used rubber bumpers on the steering linkage to feel the start of brakes. Of course the higher the speed the more important you know when the brakes start to engage. Trying to stop a Attex at any speed over 30 mph is a challenge.

[riotwarrior]

T 20 transmissions react similar on coast and power steer. Maybe you can fit a resistance device against the laterals at the point you engage reverse. Attex used rubber bumpers on the steering linkage to feel the start of brakes. Of course the higher the speed the more important you know when the brakes start to engage. Trying to stop a Attex at any speed over 30 mph is a challenge.

You know that's a great idea a bump stop so to speak to help know/feel that point. I've really gotten used to it now and I just use a light touch, I allow the sticks to fall to N basically and gently with finger pressure pull back to engage brakes.

I'm considering some type of mechanical or hydraulic brake setup on the two driven jack shafts that are driven from the transmission but drive the axles. A hand lever on each control stick and somehow tie in a park brake ratchet handle as well.

That would allow an optional brake for turning and stopping/slowing down and parking. To me that would be the best with your idea of a bumper as well.

I'll be looking at that idea of a rubber bumper. I just may have some material for that too..not too hard or soft...

If you check out my other videos on youtube you'll see some stuff regarding the transmission how it works etc and driving video...I need to have a partner video this for me while I drive slowly to depict what's going on LOL

There is a thread in transmission section about a Hagen transmission...video IIRC is posted there too and quite a bit of info, there are a couple of machines made with this transmission, some AATV like Newt the Bold and one or two others and a Ridgerunner snowmobile and it is a hell of a neat unit too as far as transmissions go.

Thanks for reading

Al

[thenewguy]

Nope custom paint job by yers truly

build thread
Muscateer 6x6 I've been doddling and working on for years!!

hope that answers you

ah no crap im on oil burners to! im 73idi88f350 thought your user name looked familiar

[riotwarrior]

ah no crap im on oil burners to! im 73idi88f350 thought your user name looked familiar

Oh that is TOO damn funny that is. Well I suppose you may have perused the build thread then LOL

What type of machine do you have and where are you located?

Took it out for a spin...literally today seeing as it was first snowfall of the year....wow it's a blast in the snow and I cannot wait till there is a bit more and hardpack on the roads...then nuts gallore for sure!

Picked up the 780 Drive clutch Nubs had for sale for parts, waiting on it to arrive at US border for pick up.

That will be getting rebuild and installed onto the Kubota, that leaves a 11" secondary to pick up.

Hope to be able to locate a big ass secondary some time soon.

[riotwarrior]

Haa...Insurance agent was here today, checking place out for the property owner. He took pictures of my Muscateer and is willing to sign off on the insurance form indicating VIN check etc. Woo hoo...looks like I'll be fully insured in near future.

Gotta love just rebuilding a machine and have the ins guy check it out...nice and clean and so forth talk about fortunate!

Al

[riotwarrior]

K got the clutch from Nubs here and decided to gamble on some locktite 680 and drilling and pinning the spider!

It turned out ok got 3 set screws to help hold it along with the Green locktite! Good stuff that is. I measured and there was barely 0.005 difference between shaft and spider...that's within tolerance of the locktite so I'm likely golden...

Here is the spider pinned


I just really need it to hold for one good drive...in a parade on Friday evening...for Christmas light up!

I've gotta get it running and have some fun in the parade. I'll be hoping it holds..I'll really inflate the tyres to reduce contact patches to a minimum and hopefully allow some good zero turn donuts LOL

Also redid the engine mount and I'll get some pics of said spacer later as well.

If lucky the 780 driven that was mailed last week will be here soon maybe in time for the parade...if lucky!

Nuff for now.