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  • #16
    spooky trans...

    Originally posted by Toyman View Post
    Since I now have added a Muscateer to my fleet I need to know everything I can learn about these critters & especially their mysterious "black box" transmissions as this one needs some help. So please chime in and give a newby owner any and all information you have pertaining to adjusting the linkage to relining the steering clutches. I want thank those that have shared some input already.
    they take 2.5 GALLONS of 10w non detergent oil or atf

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    • #17
      adjustment...

      Originally posted by Toyman View Post
      Since I now have added a Muscateer to my fleet I need to know everything I can learn about these critters & especially their mysterious "black box" transmissions as this one needs some help. So please chime in and give a newby owner any and all information you have pertaining to adjusting the linkage to relining the steering clutches. I want thank those that have shared some input already.
      Ask falboa...... i did it once it was a interesting experince, i wish not to repeat.... Some rods have to adjusted in, others out

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Amphiman1 View Post
        i drive mine once a week,,, any bigger motor might destruct the trans, that is my theory,,, ask falboa....... from on this sight, he has one also
        seems the clutches aren't the problem, it is the actuators.... i'll bet yours slips too, i don't think it is the belt.. I talked to the owner , b 4 he sold it.....
        I believe falboa has already performed a relining of his wet steering clutches. I've had enough experience with CVT propelled ATVs to know for certain the belt length and the engine spacing is incorrect. As far as the cause of slipping the actuators could easily be the culprit as it will drive; just not well. As far as a larger hp engine I would tend to agree it could not only be harmful to the transmission it could be harmful to the driver if it was not driven cautiously.
        Toyman's AATV Toys;

        Max IV
        Project Muscateer (trans. rebuild)
        Previously owned AATVs; Terra Tiger, pair of MaxIIs and Attex 450 Tomahawk, Hustler

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        • #19
          trans.

          Originally posted by Toyman View Post
          I believe falboa has already performed a relining of his wet steering clutches. I've had enough experience with CVT propelled ATVs to know for certain the belt length and the engine spacing is incorrect. As far as the cause of slipping the actuators could easily be the culprit as it will drive; just not well. As far as a larger hp engine I would tend to agree it could not only be harmful to the transmission it could be harmful to the driver if it was not driven cautiously.
          why harmful to the driver? the trans is about 1/4" plate, only harm i see is a pulled muscle , or a charley horse in your foot... haha
          Last edited by Amphiman1; 07-15-2009, 10:16 PM.

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          • #20
            Imagine what a woman behind the sticks would do to that tranny.

            Wow, that seems like an awful lot of thinking just to drive something slow, but hope you get it running right.

            Bridget

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            • #21
              riding it out

              Originally posted by Model Citizen View Post
              Imagine what a woman behind the sticks would do to that tranny.

              Wow, that seems like an awful lot of thinking just to drive something slow, but hope you get it running right.

              Bridget
              just to go for a ride? it is like a 60 minute work out..... they do move out pretty good in high.... float good too see gallery rapids ride, ask jpswift1.... if they ever sink? it would be like the titanic.... they are very HEAVY
              Last edited by Amphiman1; 07-15-2009, 10:24 PM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Amphiman1 View Post
                why harmful to the driver? the trans is about 1/4" plate, only harm i see is a pulled muscle , or a charley horse in your foot... haha
                You having as much experience with AATVs as you have would more than likely not do this but imagine a Muscateer sporting something like a 40 hp two stroke and the driver drove it full throttle forward at speed pulling back a stick to neutral and mashing the opposite pedal for reverse on some non slippery surface. I think you'd agree it would be ugly.
                Toyman's AATV Toys;

                Max IV
                Project Muscateer (trans. rebuild)
                Previously owned AATVs; Terra Tiger, pair of MaxIIs and Attex 450 Tomahawk, Hustler

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                • #23
                  i smell death....

                  Originally posted by Toyman View Post
                  You having as much experience with AATVs as you have would more than likely not do this but imagine a Muscateer sporting something like a 40 hp two stroke and the driver drove it full throttle forward at speed pulling back a stick to neutral and mashing the opposite pedal for reverse on some non slippery surface. I think you'd agree it would be ugly.
                  you bet..... try picking the machine up once... can u say "hernia"?

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                  • #24
                    Rollover

                    Originally posted by Amphiman1 View Post
                    you bet..... try picking the machine up once... can u say "hernia"?
                    With that in mind I would not want to roll it over on top of me.
                    It currently does not sport a roll bar ............................................but will.
                    Toyman's AATV Toys;

                    Max IV
                    Project Muscateer (trans. rebuild)
                    Previously owned AATVs; Terra Tiger, pair of MaxIIs and Attex 450 Tomahawk, Hustler

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                    • #25
                      roll me over? haha

                      Originally posted by Toyman View Post
                      With that in mind I would not want to roll it over on top of me.
                      It currently does not sport a roll bar ............................................but will.
                      Better be a darn good one...it will be HEAVIER then too

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Amphiman1 View Post
                        just to go for a ride? it is like a 60 minute work out..... they do move out pretty good in high.... float good too see gallery rapids ride, ask jpswift1.... if they ever sink? it would be like the titanic.... they are very HEAVY

                        Amphiman is right.....these things are very heavy. They climb well in low range, they float very well too, and high range is decent. Just make sure everything is sealed up tight and the drain plugs are in before you float it, because if it were to go down, it would go down like a rock. Here's the shots of Amphiman and I in some small rapids with it.





                        "Looks like you have a problem with your 4 wheeler........you're missin' two wheels there"
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                        • #27
                          muscateer

                          Originally posted by jpswift1 View Post
                          Amphiman is right.....these things are very heavy. They climb well in low range, they float very well too, and high range is decent. Just make sure everything is sealed up tight and the drain plugs are in before you float it, because if it were to go down, it would go down like a rock. Here's the shots of Amphiman and I in some small rapids with it.





                          Check the framing bolts too...they are carriage bolts , if i rmember correctly, they are probably loose.... and grease the hubs too......

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                          • #28
                            Weight

                            It feels like I'm driving a bulldozer with a heavy transmission and fiberglass hull. Axle housings are pretty beefy too as they bolt directly to the hull with no metal framework inside. This would be a great machine for snow removal with it's ability to power turn. Highly maneuverable!
                            Toyman's AATV Toys;

                            Max IV
                            Project Muscateer (trans. rebuild)
                            Previously owned AATVs; Terra Tiger, pair of MaxIIs and Attex 450 Tomahawk, Hustler

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                            • #29
                              musky

                              Originally posted by Toyman View Post
                              It feels like I'm driving a bulldozer with a heavy transmission and fiberglass hull. Axle housings are pretty beefy too as they bolt directly to the hull with no metal framework inside. This would be a great machine for snow removal with it's ability to power turn. Highly maneuverable!
                              It high centers easily, the long wheel base, short tires....

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                              • #30
                                Tranny Safety

                                Just thinking out loud, but maybe a lockout is possible that would prevent the petal from being pressed when the stick is in forward or reverse, just some simple linkage that moves maybe a keyed plate past the petal, a tab on the foot petal's lever that will hit the plate, but pass through the notch while stick is centered, would stop accidental forward AND reverse commands. As a bonus, while the petal was down, the tab in the notch would also stop the lever from moving Forward or back. I've never seen one in person, so I don't know how easy or hard this would be, but I would expect it should be do-able, maybe?
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