frustrated new scrambler owner

[LarryW]

Well if the springs are tight and the friction material is good, it shouldnt slip. What happens when you try to go but with a load or pulling something? Maybe have a few buddies try to hold it back or push up against a solid tree or something. Do they slip then? Maybe try cleaning the clutch pads with brake cleaner in case they got contaminated with oil/grease or something? I know they will slip when they get wet and have a load.

Another idea to look. It probably dont matter so much as long as its good material but maybe the material you bought is to thin? jerseybigfoot might know this better if it will work or not? But the new original material is .150. Its an odd ball size I know. I dont think it will matter as long as the to plates fight together with nothing else holding them from touching. I cant think of anything off hand that would though.

[rocketman17joe]

I have owned 3 of theis the way it works is a rack is under the dash and on each side of thr rack is a master brake cylinder.when you urn the wheel you push the cylinder,on the other end <brake> the piston pulls the calpers togeather...try to make sure that their is no air in the system,bleed then,second make sure your fluid tank is full with break fluid.actualy reverse the order ck fluid -bleed //

[simpleton7016]

I have absolutely no experience with scramblers at all and do not know what the drive shaft with the clutches looks like. However, the symptoms you describe sound like something I toiled with on my Terra Tiger. I have bearings with locking collars on the ends of my primary drive shaft. I was certain that i had the locking collars installed correctly. In fact, they were NOT locked appropriately and I pulled my hair out trying to figure out why my steering clutches would not engage and disengage correctly. I am not sure if you have bearings with locking collars or not....but if it does....something to look at. If not, please disregard.

[airstreamer74]

OK, I'm up and running; well I was untill I made a hard left at about 20 mph in the snow and my left rear wheel came off. The three little 40 year old rusted studs couldn't take the slide. Not a tough fix though.

To back up a little: I could not get my scrambler to turn (the initial reason for this thread), even with new clutch material, even tighting the pressure on the clutchs, then I reinforced the cross-member between the clutches thinking the frame was flexing, still nothing! Just about ready to give it up. I spoted a sweet looking Marc VII with a stuck motor and flat one-piece tires on craigslist in my area for $300 and I'm thinking, might be good for parts. I go look at it and pay the guy on the spot becauce this thing is in great shape, besides the motor/tires anyways. I pull out the motor (Tecumseh 12hp), the B&S 16hp twin from my $600 non-stearing machine bolts right up, perfect alighment AND belt size. Only problem is the rear seat had to be set forward a few inches. Still plenty of life on the belt plus the spare, unused belt is still wired in place ready to slip on if needed. Bleed and prime the brakes/stearing, swap the tires, make a couple (hundred) adjustments and away I went! It turns like a dream, crank the wheel and hit the gas and your 180 going the other direction. Even turns on the spot from a standstill.

I just need to remember it's a 40 year old machine and unless I tear it down and replace all the nuts, bolts and chains (which were pretty rusty but they work too) and such, I'm gonna have to be a little carefull.

As for my nightmare machine, I'll have all the drivetrain components for parts and I have visions of converting it into an electric with separate motors and controllers for each side, the scramber is set up perfectly for that with the electric motors going in place of the stearing clutched. Plus.... real REVERSE!

[hydromike]

Congratulations! Glad to hear you've met with some success.

So, to what do you attribute your driveline issues with the first machine? Did you come to any conclusions about the steering issue?

~m

[airstreamer74]

nope. Gremlins maybe, bad Karma, barometric pressure drop?

Congratulations! Glad to hear you've met with some success.

So, to what do you attribute your driveline issues with the first machine? Did you come to any conclusions about the steering issue?

~m

[hydromike]

Sunspots!

Cosmic waves man; cosmic waaaaaves.

~m