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  • New Project- Camel Centipede

    Preface: I don't know how many machines I have. Stop asking.

    So, I picked up a Camel. Shane K. did some purchasing out in Illinois and ended up with a couple machines that he wanted for the T-20s (can't blame him...). One of the machines was an old 'glass-bodied Hustler, and there was a Camel Centipede. Like a few other members, a Camel has been on the list of want-need-must have someday machines, and I immediately began the bartering process. We worked some things out, and I made the journey out to Taylorville last Friday for a 1500 mile round trip journey to add yet another project to the stables.

    Aside from several decent cracks and some substantial damage to the left rear corner, this is a surpsingly original, unmolested example of one of the odder-looking AATVs from the early 70s. We don't have a LOT of information regarding Centipedes here on the Site, so I hope to add a bit of knowledge to the database as I begin to look things over and make some repairs. I don't plan on ripping this apart right away, or jumping head-long into another project until I finish the Swamp Fox and hopefully work on other (ahem...Max 8) projects that have been neglected for quite a long time. In order to mock things up, I put the Little B*stard (yes, it's cursed) 16hp Vanguard in it and borrowed the transmission from the Fox to see how things lined up.

    Here a a few initial findings on this particular machine.

    *Holy crap this thing has 1 1/4" axles! (62mm inner/outer bearings)
    *Classic 6-chain setup like and Attex, with #50 primaries coming off the T-20 to the center axle, which drives the front and rear axles via #40 chain.
    *4-lug wheel hubs, which *appear* to be stock
    *The ABS upper and lower are somewhere between and Attex ST-model and a Chaparral in thickness. Not great, but workable.
    *The upper body is actually green ABS, not grey with a green film like the textured early green Attex bodies (ST/295-400 and Tank Trainers)
    * Seating position is on the right of the machine. Quite awkward feeling, and not a lot of room for the driver/passenger.
    *Unistrut-style chain adjusters with poly (probably nylon, actually) rollers for ALL of the chains (4 of which are almost impossible to reach with the upper body on. Joy.
    * A small Vanguard WILL fit underneath the upper body with an easily-modified engine mount.

    Here are a few pictures. Several more appear in my gallery...


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  • #2
    This great Mike! I know it may be a while but I can't wait to see it.
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    • #3
      Sweet new project Mike.
      l like to buy stuff and no I don't do payments!

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      • #4
        Nice find, Congrats!

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        • #5
          Mike you have some issues,that aside nice score that will keep boredom from setting in with a cold long Buffalo winter ahead.LOL

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          • #6
            Wow, nice score! if it was me, i'd make a sticker that said "Toe" and place it below the front emblem..but thats just me. lol You got tons of projects! im jelous! if i was as lucky as you, i wouldn't have to venture inside for weeks at a time other than to shower and sleep! lol some guys have all the fun! :-P haha. Congrads mike!
            I have officially caught the 6-wheel-sickness!!

            "If your gonna be dumb, you better be Tough!"

            "I have done so much, with so little, for so long, that I'm now capable of doing practically anything with virtually nothing...."

            BUY AMERICAN..or...BYE AMERICA!!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by mustangwagz View Post
              Wow, nice score! if it was me, i'd make a sticker that said "Toe" and place it below the front emblem..but thats just me.
              Hahaha, I can't believe I didn't think of that! Good call wagz!
              "Looks like you have a problem with your 4 wheeler........you're missin' two wheels there"
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              • #8
                I was at shanes house a few weeks ago and saw that thing....very cool, I like old school stuff like that! was in pretty good shape for the age. With the cracks in the tub, you maybe able to repair them if you can get it lined back up. When I did auto body, we had several different plastic and rubber epoxy's, alot of them will also work with fiberglass. If you are looking to repair it just go to any autobody supply store and tell them what you got, pretty easy fix as long as you do it right

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MikeyM View Post
                  With the cracks in the tub, you maybe able to repair them if you can get it lined back up. When I did auto body, we had several different plastic and rubber epoxy's, alot of them will also work with fiberglass.
                  The Centipede bodies are made out of ABS plastic, and there's very little that will stick to it in the long run. Fiberglass mat and resin will stick to the bodies in certain areas, but when it's applied to areas that undergo a lot of flexing, the bond between the 'glass and the plastic eventually gives way, despite the best surface preparation. I've had decent luck with welding the ABS on some machines, but only in certain areas. A good-many of the welds on my 8 wheeler cracked open after being welded and reinforced with glass mat. Some haven't had any issues. Racerone3 used a combination of ABS putty melted in acetone, and using the fiberglass mat. This chemically (versus physically) bonds the mat with the underlying cracked body. This is the route I'm going to attempt to take on the Centipede.

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                  • #10
                    well I stand corrected I knew my max was plastic abs, but thought i remembered the camel being fiberglass when I was there, maybe It was one of his other ones I saw that was glass

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MikeyM View Post
                      well I stand corrected I knew my max was plastic abs, but thought i remembered the camel being fiberglass when I was there, maybe It was one of his other ones I saw that was glass
                      Hey MikeyM,
                      Unless your Max is a really really early Max its not abs. Most are poly.

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                      • #12
                        well damn hahaha, maybe thats why I was in the paint shop and not the body shop....i dont know my materials

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MikeyM View Post
                          well I stand corrected I knew my max was plastic abs, but thought i remembered the camel being fiberglass when I was there, maybe It was one of his other ones I saw that was glass
                          Shane had an older fiberglass Hustler body there, too. Maybe you were thinking of that machine...
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                          • #14
                            hey mike glad to help you out on the camel,now you can take it off the list ha ha,let me no if your looking for anything else i come across alot of stuff and sometimes very rare things,want to see pics when you get it done.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by shane kearney View Post
                              let me no if your looking for anything else i come across alot of stuff and sometimes very rare things.
                              Next Christmas, I'd like to have a Sur-Trek.

                              Find Racerone3 a Tomcat. Our friendship has been strained since I sent him a picture of the Centipede.

                              Oh, and change your avatar Shane; you don't even own that machine anymore!

                              Thanks again for the help with the 'Pede. Good to see you again.
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