Polaris unveils new RZR 1000

[kghills]

I think it's only natural to bring a springer 6x6 setup into any conversations about side by sides on this forum. Probably healthy. As I said before given the small number of them not as much data on how they perform here and there, but with luck and as time marches on hopefully there will be more and great stories and hopefully videos.

Keith.

[mudbug3]

Bridget

If you start at the beginning of this thread you'll see who turned this thread negative and got way off topic. I have no problem with some one making a counter point, but why make it so negative? I only used your springer kit to prove a counter point to this discussion, not trash the springer kits for what they were designed for.

[whipper-ag]

[mudbug3]

amphibious drew

This Big Tire Razor RZR would be able to follow your machine across a pond, knee deep mud hole, and not have a problem following jpswift1's ( vintage ) Hustler with ASX tires on it in any place that a springer could fit through. Plus provide a more comfortable ride with it's four wheel , independent suspension. If you saw this machine in action you would know this too.

[mudbug3]

The first video shows springers mudding and swimming...the 2nd shows a springer on some tight trails in the woods.

George

The mud that you showed the springer driving through is'nt what I'd call challenging mud. What I'm taking about is this: Will a springer be able to drive through mud like this in the video below? I understand that a springer kit on an amphib is to have a more comfortable ride, but , for the majority of off road riding that most forum members like to do, a springer kit is not that practical. This is why it's a very good idea to have different machines for different off road uses and that's the reason Brandon started this topic. The big tire RZR would have no problem at all driving through mud like this with 18 inches of ground clearance ,smooth lower tub, and taller tires to touch the bottom of the mud holes that our machines struggled through even with very aggressive , atv mud tires on them. These are modern machines not vintage machines. Brandon posted this thread to show a really nice RZR and not to start a heated debate. I made a post about this very unique Polaris RZR that I saw at the mud nationals and certain forum members turned this forum topic into some thing else. In the same context that each one of these forum member used, I used a springer kit on an amphib to make a counter point not to start an argument. Why can't we offer a counter discussion with out this being a heated debate about what machine is better? Each machine has a pros and cons.

[George]

Me too! Plow this, suckah.

Ahhh....I love the classics!

[kghills]

Your 2nd sentence is very confusing Kghills. Read it over & over & can't exactly figure out what the heck you're trying to say. Are you saying that springer riders are not drunk, so they must not be abusing the machines enough?
When did you see a springer fall a bit short in snow? And you make it sound like stock machines can't make it through some snow without tracks. Really? There are going to be a lot of bummed people this winter.
Agree, similar characteristics, but not the same. Apples & Oranges.
Getting the feeling that because we don't have mud & snow, that springers are a wasted piece of amphib. They're not for us. We post all our riding videos to SHARE, not to sell, because we love AATV's.

Bridget

Sorry to confuse and slow respone. Controlled abuse is one thing. Out of controlled use is another. I have heard no stories of a springer catching a stump at wot etc and cartwheeling to some near death experience. Not that I want to but I have with quads, snowmobiles and even 6 wheelers. In my part of the country winter brings snow a little deeper than what tires can manage. 6" 8" of snow can be handled by a Honda Civic. We also have snowmobile nuts. They grass drag, ice race, pond skip and even run the 1/4 mile at NHRA asphalt tracks. Apples to oranges probably. I would think it might be interesting to see if tracks could work on a springer setup. Keith.

[mudbug3]

So yea i think owning more than one off road vehicle is definitly the way to go. it keeps you from getting board

Yes, I can agree with you on this!

[mudbug3]

This thread topic has went in a whole different direction from Brandon's original post.

[hydromike]

Did this thread turn into "show snow videos"? OK, I'm up for that.

Me too! Plow this, suckah.

[thebuggyman1]

Did this thread turn into "show snow videos"? OK, I'm up for that.
Even antique fiberglass machines with small under powered 2 strokes can go through the snow..... pull out quads when they get high centered too.

[George]

I have a set of tracks that came with my Tomahawk. Maybe I'll try them on the springer this winter. Since the wheels are now outside the body fenders, I may be able to run with taller tires than would normally fit on a stock Attex. That would give the springer even more ground clearance than I'd have on my stock Tomahawk. I suppose I'll have to find a couple extra track links to make up for the greater tire circumference.

[wfo]

OK OK ill say something, im not called WFO for nothing, october 16 of 2010 was my first springer experence and ive been hammering it ever since that first day, scatterd 1 engine but never ever had to replace a suspension arm , bushing , bearing, or any other part of it so i would say WHIPPER definitly did his homework before putting these out their. so yea i think owning more than one off road vehicle is definitly the way to go. it keeps you from getting board

[Model Citizen]

[kghills]

I built my springer for trail riding, and yes that includes rocks, mud and swimming. Gearing is stock MAX 2, so there is no problem slinging mud. The engine is high performance big torque, but clutched for trail riding. Most comercial ATV trails and mud holes are wide enough for a bus especially at The ATV Parks. Just because we can go fast does not mean we will if the conditions wont allow it. If anything the suspenison will prevent bent axles and loosing a bead on a tire .
As far a vids go I completed the machine in April and had no opportunity for mudding.

Thanks Mark. I am still trying to process the springers. I had a chance to look at and watch a few run at Pine Lake earlier. They are definatly cool. The width seems to be less and less of an issue as you stated as many places seem to have truck size trails I am finding also. The number of springers seem to be few and in the hands of fairly responsible owners it would seem. Maybe a function of costand availability I would think so they do not receive the same abuse that other "hey hold my beer while I try this" machines are seeing. As an all terain vehicle I do see the springer fall a bit short when it comes to snow but that is the price you pay for going to a style of suspension that can't be tracked easily. I watch all the springer videos with great interest but to be honest I am not sure for an amphib that a compliant tire and well engineered suspension seat might afford similar characteristics. They do look cool though. And yes I did scavange a wedge for a springer project but as I said I am still trying to process all their designs and see if one would fit my intended use or if it would just be a 6 wheeled rzr.

Keith.