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  • locolouie
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    DO NOT, PUT ANY POWER (+) TO THE COILS,,,, YOU WILL DESTROY THEM, SO BE VERY CAREFUL… EXPERIENCE IS A GREAT TEACHER, AND I HAVE LEARNED MY LESSON!!! LOL!!!![/QUOTE]
    Fred you are right about that last sentence, when you been around as long as some of us, you think you would learn your lesson, me, myself, and I have not. looks like you guys where having a blast in the swamp, Norm ,not to worry you got it licked now, hope to see you all again at busco

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  • fmints
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    Originally posted by Normable1973 View Post
    Okay the red wire goes to fuel selonoid purple goes to plug in second pic wht goes into the blk box on left side of first pic. Does this make sense? How would you hook it up? I'm really having a brain fart on this one.....

    the only important wires are the fuel solenoid, the stator, coils, starter, starter solenoid, and ground. the sensor on top of the block by the carb is not important ( I have never plugged my up at all and my 23 works great ). And you can actually remove the fuel solenoid completely and put a bolt in the carb to replace it,,,, or ground off a little bit of the fuel solenoid "Needle" (or remove the needle all together) and never wire up the fuel solenoid. I made my own harness for the kohler so my engine was a plug and play/quick disconnect ready. I got a 3-5 wire make-a-harness from Radio shack, both male and female connections for a couple of bucks.

    ***********ALSO************

    DO NOT, PUT ANY POWER (+) TO THE COILS,,,, YOU WILL DESTROY THEM, SO BE VERY CAREFUL… EXPERIENCE IS A GREAT TEACHER, AND I HAVE LEARNED MY LESSON!!! LOL!!!!
    Last edited by fmints; 06-17-2014, 08:41 AM. Reason: added important note

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  • Normable1973
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    Okay the red wire goes to fuel selonoid purple goes to plug in second pic wht goes into the blk box on left side of first pic. Does this make sense? How would you hook it up? I'm really having a brain fart on this one.....
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  • ARGOJIM
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    Shoot! was looking for real-world comparison.

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  • fmints
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    Originally posted by ARGOJIM View Post
    Well was he impressed?
    with the new engine, older style clutches it should be far superior to what he had.
    I didnt make it,, he had to work!!

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  • rodp
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    Hmm, no comment ? Perhaps they killed it and there's now real tears

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  • ARGOJIM
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    Originally posted by fmints View Post
    Hey Norm I got you when I get there tonight. the Kohler starter takes two wires ( one red battery, and one green remote/ignition from key wire) then there is one black wire to kill the coils, and another white wire to recharge the battery that comes from the Stator. I can show you it tonight, so dont worry,,, you'll be running in minutes!! looking good though,,, we should have some time to take it for a spin in your creek/river behind your house tonight maybe!!
    Well was he impressed?
    with the new engine, older style clutches it should be far superior to what he had.

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  • fmints
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    Hey Norm I got you when I get there tonight. the Kohler starter takes two wires ( one red battery, and one green remote/ignition from key wire) then there is one black wire to kill the coils, and another white wire to recharge the battery that comes from the Stator. I can show you it tonight, so dont worry,,, you'll be running in minutes!! looking good though,,, we should have some time to take it for a spin in your creek/river behind your house tonight maybe!!

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  • Normable1973
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    Ok I think everything is finally done except for the wiring, the kohler plug has 3 wires on it the briggs had 2? The selonoid is on the starter, the briggs wasn't. Can anyone look at the pics and tell me how to hook it up? I know this should be easy.... Thanx. Norm...
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  • MaxRules
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    Looking good Norm. There is plenty of beefing up to do when you add power to a Max. Newer Maxs have the legs of the engine stand reinforced also. Angled braces welded onto the legs down to the feet to give it more strength where it bolts onto the frame/motor mounts. A large engine could bend those as the engine pulls itself down toward the trans.

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  • Normable1973
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    We'll I got the trans installed,made some brackets for the top front and back to stop it from moving. Then when I went to install the kohler I realized the bolt holes on the engine stand from the 18 vanguard were wrong so I welded them up and punched new ones, then the stand seemed flimsy so I made some plates that go under it and cross braced the legs. The new belt came in today so it should be just about complete tomorrow... I rebuilt the t20 that I took out of it for the max 2 so I will have both machines complete very soon!! I won't be disabled anymore Jim... Lol. Norm...
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  • Normable1973
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    No Jim, there was a little zip tie type clamp around it that got broken and the actual piece that broke is broken inside. I'll order it today, now that I know what it is. Thanks all... Norm..

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  • ARGOJIM
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    Will it just snap back in? Picture looks like a snap in fitting.

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  • MaxRules
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    Hi Norm, here is the parts diagram for that engine: Lawn Mower Parts, Small Engine Parts & Much More! | PartsTree.com - Briggs, MTD, Toro, Cub Cadet, Husqvarna, Troy-bilt...

    Number 24 is the entire fuel pump, number 31 is the upper fitting in your picture. The fitting is cheap if that is all you need. Should be able to order online or from your local Kohler dealer.

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  • fmints
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    Originally posted by Normable1973 View Post
    While I was installing my new engine I broke this piece, I can't find it in the parts, someone know what it's called? Can I just gorrilla glue it back together? Any help would be appriciated... This looks so much bigger than the briggs. Thanks. Norm.

    Try this out for size Lawn Mower Parts, Small Engine Parts & Much More! | PartsTree.com - Briggs, MTD, Toro, Cub Cadet, Husqvarna, Troy-bilt...

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