16 hp briggs vs 23hp briggs

[c9576]

thinking of trading in my 16hp (runs great and always starts 1st turn) can anyone tell me if the 23 is worth the 1000. also can it pull hills like a 4x4 quad my 6x6 16hp cannot keep up with quads on powerlines (big hills with tree roots cant clear those roots) also i am running 22" gators as tires what kind of pressure should be in them. 1 last thing anyone have a roll bar for sale for a max II 2002 please help.

[amphibious drew]

Put the 23 in and you have a whole different machine. If its worth the upgrade or not is up to you. You could always just take those quads of the trail and make them keep up with you. Tire pressure should be 1-2psi for the best all around ride. Pressure should vary slightly from tire to tire as you should go for correct circumferance around the tire. If that is the same from tire to tire you will put less stress on the drive chain and have less wear and tear.

[jpswift1]

The difference will be night and day! Go for it, you'll be very happy. The horsepower is a good bit more, but the torque is A LOT more and you'll really feel it, especially on the hills. I have a 23HP Vanguard in my Hustler 980 BIGFOOT with 26" Super Swamper Vampire ASX tires and it will climb some really good sized hills with 4 guys in it without bogging down......ask Drew about that. The smaller Max II will be a whole new animal with that engine in it!

[c9576]

That is great to here about the difference in the 2 engines. I think you guys sold me on it, you two should get a commission check from route 6x6. I'll bring it up with richard upon ordering the motor. How hard is it to install. it looks to be about 5-6 bolts and some small wiring????

[amphibious drew]

Its simple to install, but don't go through route 6x6 unless you want to over pay for it. If you watch on eBay you can get one from brandnewengines real cheap. I just got a new 18 for $652 shipped to my door and it only took 3 days after the auction ended to get from Iowa to pa.

[MaxRules]

Route 6x6 is a great place to get it and Richard sets up the engines to be ready to install in a 6x6. This site has something against anyone making money on 6x6s.

[mustangwagz]

Route 6x6 is a great place to get it and Richard sets up the engines to be ready to install in a 6x6. This site has something against anyone making money on 6x6s.

ill disagree with you on this one...anyone OVER pricing stuff doesnt need the business..honestly..sure hes got alot of stuff, but his prices are rediculous on a majority of stuff. i was quoted over 1000 dollars for wheels, tires, and adapters via his store, Plus Shipping... when i was able to do EVERYTHING for under 500 bucks with a little research..including shipping....you do the math..

[jpswift1]

That is great to here about the difference in the 2 engines. I think you guys sold me on it, you two should get a commission check from route 6x6. I'll bring it up with richard upon ordering the motor. How hard is it to install. it looks to be about 5-6 bolts and some small wiring????

Just like mustangwagz says, try to avoid Route6x6. You can find the engine cheaper somewhere else.

Route 6x6 is a great place to get it and Richard sets up the engines to be ready to install in a 6x6. This site has something against anyone making money on 6x6s.

Setting up the engines for an AATV application requires only a couple very minor changes that anyone can do. You can just get the parts through Recreatives for this. And Brandon, your statement about this site having something against people making money on 6x6s couldn't be more wrong. I've made money on 6x6s too, and the site has nothing against me. I think it's more along the lines of people on the site don't care for someone that charges ridiculous prices, as mustangwagz says, and then offers little to no customer service to back the products up. There have been so many members that were initially turned off to 6x6s, including myself, when they were going to restore them because of the prices that Richard Clark was going to charge them for parts was just so high. When this happens all of the helpful folks on 6x6World chime in and help these folks get that determination back so they could get their machines up and going at a fraction of the price with the advice and assistance of other members. 6x6World does not have anything against someone making money, rather 6x6World and all the members share a common vision of simply promoting the hobby. If you actually believe that 6x6World has something against you or your buddies, then there's a simple solution for that.....don't come to this site.

Back to the 16 HP vs 23 HP discussion. Here's a torque curve chart:

Torque Specs - Vanguard Repower Small Engines Torque Specs

[amphibious drew]

Route 6x6 is a great place to get it and Richard sets up the engines to be ready to install in a 6x6. This site has something against anyone making money on 6x6s.

You must be getting a kick back from him. If you want to overpay for stuff that is your deal. If someone recomends a more affordable way to go you shouod not get offended. I wasnt going to get into it, but when i got my first machine i bought an axle off of him. It was overpriced cold rolled steal that didn't last 20 minutes. He charged me 4 times what i could have got it for at tractor supply. He was unhelpful on the phone and seemed arogant to me. I refuse to go on his site, but really doubt that he ever promotes 6x6world on it as it alerts people to his shady business practices and an informed consumer doesnt buy from him. I just suggested a more affordable route that worked for me. The fact that you feel the need to stear people away from a more affordable route makes me question your intentions.

[flippy]

Richards relics wanted a $100 per bleeder for a scrambler so your looking at $300 for three reverse bleeders!That's insane and will make people give up.I posted pics of my fix on this site for others to see just like others had info for me . Richards relics website does not even put the price on the parts you have to call him.If you can afford him go for it but I appreciate humans helping one another.

[FREQ42]

OK I'll chime in hear, I had a OH180 in my max-II and it worked for what it was when it wanted to. I ordered a 23hp from Ebay and with shipping it only ran me $1045 But do to UPS took a month to get. the only thing I had to do was make a spacer to go on the shaft to move my clutch out a little and cum up with an exhaust that i liked. the weiring was easy to setup and the resulting power my machine now has is vary noticeable. Your machine wont run any faster than it did before BUT it will get there faster do to the torque of the motor. I learned this first hand with my swap. hill's that I had problems climbing with the old motor are no-longer a challenge for the new. Remember your top speed stays the same as your old motor but the increased torque will allow you to do the same things a little faster then your old motor. I hope this makes sense for you.