Adair Pro Series with Winter Kit (metal cleats) Ordered!

[thorn]

I decided to try a set of Adair Pro Series tracks with the winter kit on my 2018 Frontier 8x8 LE (aka green Scout). I was originally going to take the 22" Chanel tracks off my 2004 Conquest and put them on the Frontier but I kept running into unexpected issues involving the reversible rims, tuners and having to swap tires. There are a lot of details I won't bore you guys with, but another issue was possibly ending up with a machine that is too wide for the entrance of my trailer.

I like the fact that the Adairs don't require tuners and can be easily be removed for tire usage even though I will rarely do this as my Argo is primarily my winter/deep snow transportation. I like that they are light weight in comparison to the Chanels and won't rob as much power.

The Frontier has the 26.5 HP Kohler and I just had Argo Adventure put in the low/3.3 gear set in the tranny so it should turn them just fine. I also drilled out my clutch weights for high altitude (207 gram) to help keep the RPMs up. I had this machine up over 11,000 feet above sea level this summer and I was pleased with the way it ran. I'm sure the EFI helped a lot too.

I bought the tracks through Argo Adventure (awesome people) and they sell a lot to users in Colorado and they seem to really like them in the deep powder conditions similar to what we have here (Utah). I am really hoping they are as capable as my Chanel tracks in the deep stuff.

Anyone here have experience with this track system in deep snow?

[tbone9]

Yes. I went from full rubber tracks to Adair’s. They do just as good in the powder and lots easier on the drive train.

[mightymaxIV]

Here is some video of the old style Adair tracks with chains taken in Wyoming powder snow in 2012. I believe that Noel Woods was on this ride and he said the tracks and machines performed excellent in the powder. The new style belted tracks with the winter extension and snow cleats are even better. I think you are going to be very happy with your new system and will find the Argo frontier will take you anywhere you want to go. My only advice is always have another machine with you in powder just in case of an unexpected breakdown.

[thorn]

Yes. I went from full rubber tracks to Adair’s. They do just as good in the powder and lots easier on the drive train.

Thanks for the input. That is a cool pic of your Max. Are you running the winter kit? We get a ton of snow most years (unfortunately we are having a bad drought this year) and not only do I need good floatation, but the ability to climb in the deep stuff. I hope the combination of the Adairs having tall grousers to paddle, but the big metal cleats on the winter kit belt should help a lot as well.

[thorn]

Here is some video of the old style Adair tracks with chains taken in Wyoming powder snow in 2012. I believe that Noel Woods was on this ride and he said the tracks and machines performed excellent in the powder. The new style belted tracks with the winter extension and snow cleats are even better. I think you are going to be very happy with your new system and will find the Argo frontier will take you anywhere you want to go. My only advice is always have another machine with you in powder just in case of an unexpected breakdown.

Thanks Dan for the info. I have seen all of the Wyoming videos from Adair and those tracks worked well. These videos are before the Pro Series tracks were available and I have not been able to find any deep powder videos of the newest Pro Series with the winter kit in use. I have heard a lot of good reports though about them in deep snow.

[Buzz]

Alaska Videos

If anyone in Alaska wants to make some videos, let me know. I’d like to get machines with Adair pro-series tracks w/winter kit, Argo Rubber tracks and all others track types alongside my machine to compare and get some footage. I run a different version of tracks (on aurora 950 huntmaster), but it might be helpful for everyone to compare. 907-354-5319. Jeff “Buzz”

[mightymaxIV]

If anyone in Alaska wants to make some videos, let me know. I’d like to get machines with Adair pro-series tracks w/winter kit, Argo Rubber tracks and all others track types alongside my machine to compare and get some footage. I run a different version of tracks (on aurora 950 huntmaster), but it might be helpful for everyone to compare. 907-354-5319. Jeff “Buzz”

Can you post a picture of the Track system you are using, since you are putting out a challenge you must feel you have the best system, let's see what it is.

[Buzz]

A comparison to include heavy loads, low or flat tires, and different terrain types- the kinds of things utility 8x8’s actually encounter in the bush. Many of the videos I see from ATV terrain parks have written descriptions inserted on the screen that exaggerate the conditions (that we can see on the video) and that make amazing claims they want us to believe. Fair comparisons are the only way to show how all track types work.

[Buzz]

[QUOTE=mightymaxIV;236106]Can you post a picture of the Track system you are using, since you are putting out a challenge you must feel you have the best system, let's see what it is.[/QUOTE

You’re happy with your tracks, that should be all that matters.

I’ll try my best to keep it on the up and up

[mightymaxIV]

[QUOTE=Buzz;236114]

Can you post a picture of the Track system you are using, since you are putting out a challenge you must feel you have the best system, let's see what it is.[/QUOTE

You’re happy with your tracks, that should be all that matters.

I’ll try my best to keep it on the up and up

Buzz, we all know that you have tried several different types of tracks and experimented with what works and does not work. Could you post a video of your most current set up so we don't have to guess? I just want to see what works best for you, no pride here man, if you got the best I want to see what they look like.

[Dan67]

Google RockDoctor07 videos on Youtube. He is up in Alaska and has a pair of 8x8 he uses to access his remote cabin in the bush.

[Buzz]

Google RockDoctor07 videos on Youtube. He is up in Alaska and has a pair of 8x8 he uses to access his remote cabin in the bush.

RD I believe hails from B.C. I have always enjoyed his vids and especially the fact he posts honest/helpful videos (including the times he gets stuck in the mud), or comments about traction cleats ect

[Buzz]

[QUOTE=mightymaxIV;236118]

Buzz, we all know that you have tried several different types of tracks and experimented with what works and does not work. Could you post a video of your most current set up so we don't have to guess? I just want to see what works best for you, no pride here man, if you got the best I want to see what they look like.

An odd claim, but the original poster mentioned a few things I am familiar with re: channel tracks (reversible rims/track tuners, lengthening a track for a new machine, overall width ect). FYI, I believe his steel channel tracks were made in Canada (not by me)
Additionally, there was some interest expressed in some snow videos w/Adair Pro series tracks w/winter kit. Seens like a good reason to me to get some machines and different track types together if possible and shoot some footage to help everyone, including the original poster.
It’ll be fun.

[thorn]

I will do a video for sure once I get my machine put together and the Adairs come. And....we get some snow! It has been super dry here. Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow!!!!!

[thorn]

Well for the past couple of weeks I have been stripping all the goodies off my Conquest and fitting them to my Frontier LE in preparation for my tracks arriving. They were loaded on a truck yesterday and should be here in a couple of days. The Conquest and Frontier are pretty close dimensionally, but I had to do some massaging here and there to get everything to fit. I put the rear bench seat in, windshield, and aluminum hard (soft side) top on the Frontier.

I had to wire three sets of LED lights and radio as well. I ditched my electric windshield wiper kit because it has never worked well and uses a small (13") blade on it. I put a hand wiper on it from Amazon and it has a 15" blade on it and sweeps the whole windshield (not just half). I have this same wiper on my Polaris Ranger and it works well.

Before all of the accessory swapping started I pulled my tranny with only 29 hours on it and shipped it off to Argo Adventure to have them put in the 3.3 HT (low) gear set in it. Those gears combined with the 26.5 HP EFI motor should pull those Adairs well. I also drilled out my clutch weights to 207 grams (stock in Scout/LE Frontiers is 220) for high altitude (8000-10,000+ feet above sea level).

We have been getting some snow here finally and I am hoping to go find at least 2 feet in the high country to try out the tracks this weekend. I will report back and their performance.