Hydro traxx on OUTLAWS!

[SWAMP HAWG]

I was looking at the hydrotraxx website the other day and saw that you can get 25", 26", or 27" Highlifter Outlaws on their machine as a factory installed option.
Anyone on here ever run anything that aggressive on a 6x6?
I have the 29.5's on my 4wheeler and they really are unbelievable in the mud.

[MaxRules]

I see no point in putting them on an amphibious vehicle. Sure they'll fit on a Max IV, Frontier, or Avenger, but they provide zero water speed. That is and always has been the problem with changing tires on our AATVs. Our vehicles rely on water speed as it helps them to paddle through water filled mud holes. Remember our vehicles won't sink to the bottom to find traction like a 4x4.

[mightymaxIV]

Reference outlaws

see my commnets in the next post

[mightymaxIV]

Reference outlaws

Swamp Hawg, I've been talking to them to and they are about to release a new model that has 28" outlaws as an option but the guy told me you could fit 29.5 in outlaws on this rig. He also said that they swim really well with the outlaws (he said it swims better with the out laws than the standard 25 " Goodyears-thats hard to believe!). Also soon to be available is a jet pump drive system,wow! But before you spend your money check out the comments Mudbug made to me about the Hydro traxx. As for the out laws there is no better mud tire period but one of the guys said they have a very rough ride! I have a set of 27" AMS Swamp Fox plus tires on mine and they are not as good in the mud as outlaws but they ride better and are a good compromise. Mark up at R.C. says you can put 27" gators on the MaxIV and it is almost unstoppable. You might want to talk with him, he works in the parts section. Hope this helps.

[mudbug3]

Hydro traxx on Outlaws

Several months ago I took off the set of 26 Goodyears that came from the factory, and in place of them, installed a set of 26 Gators on my Max IV. I bought the Gators from a man who also had a Max IV, but he used his mainly for duck hunting. When I asked why he was selling them,,his answer was " they don,t have enough water speed for what I need, when I,m duck hunting. I payed $180 for all six tires, which was a steal compared to what you pay for new. High $80,s I think

I drove from North Little Rock,Arkansas back to Shreveport, Lousiana where I live, and had the Gators installed at a Local Atv and motor cycle dealership. On my Max IV these tires made it look "bad to the bone". In soft soupy mud, thick mud,or driving through water with a bottom, that the tires could touch, the gators made my Max IV just about unstopable !

I then drove down a trail that dead ended at a small pond to test the water ability of the Gators, since I was so impressed with their muddin ability.

Since I had earlier crossed a small creek and had made my way across easy enough,,this was my next test of the Gators.

I drove into the pond with a little speed, and ended up about 15 ft from the bank, where I came in. I had the Gators installed "backwards" like the factory Good years, but mounted this way gave me next to nothing water speed.

The short water test of driving my Max across a small creek had worked, only because of the momentum I,d gained before I intered the creek. The water ability of the Gators was next to nothing , I later sadly found out!

I then tried driving backwards to the bank,,but ended up going side ways in the water towards it. It was becoming VERY frustrating now , because I thought I might have to swim to the bank with a rope , and then swim back , to retrieve my "no swimming", amphibious Max , and pull it back to the bank. I then tried using almost no throttle, and this seemed to give me just enough water speed ( momentum ? ) to paddle side ways back to the shore . I won,t try this again with the Gators ! That day I learned a lession .

The man who sold me these tires for such a good price, told me the Gators he,d bought,, did,nt have enough water speed for duck hunting . What he should have said though , is that the Gators have next to nothing for water speed , and only " slightly better " water speed , having the Gator tires mounted with the "V" ( digging part of the tire ) mounted forward . Mounted this way,,there is a slight tread curve on the outer edge of each tire . This seems to help a little , though not much .

I,ve seen an Argo Big foot with 25 Vampires , and these tires have a little water speed.,just enough to get you across a small body of water . This argo with the Vampire tires , could easily go through places that stopped every other amphib on the video I saw , and make it look easy doing it. This is because of the very agressive tread pattern of the Vampires, and also the exellent ability to self clean themselves of mud.

Other than the stock 26 Good years ( for great water speed ) , the Swamp Fox Plus tires , seem to be the best compromise for swimming ,digging ,and self cleaning , from the You tube videos I,ve seen.

[mightymaxIV]

Mudbug, your the man. Thanks for the really good infomation on the Gators and I really appreciate the information you gave me on the Hydro Traxx. THX AGAIN!!

[SWAMP HAWG]

I've read that the Gators do much better than 25" or 26" goodyear rawhides in any kind of mud on a 6x6, but the water performance left alot to be desired.
I had 26" rawhides on my old Swamp Fox . It would swim pretty well , but the mud performance was truly sad in my opinion.
There were a few holes my Arctic Cat would crawl through in 2wd that the 6 rawhides would slick over and not clean out.
I have ran just about every "pure mud" tire available for a 12" rim including Outlaws, EDL's, Mudzillas, and the magnum Mud Machines.
I always wondered how the Outlaws would do on a 6x6 because they are designed to paddle forward instead of digging down like the zillas, or the EDL's. I sold the Swamp Fox before I could try Outlaws on it, and now my little Attex can't fit them as the smallest size is a 25"

[jpswift1]

I have yet to test my 26" Goodyears on my Hustler BIGFOOT, but I did consider putting on a set of 27" mud tires. I was thinking about Highlifter Outlaws or something along those lines. I think I could possibly even fit 28's, but it might be a little too close. I will have to find some mud holes (its been sooooooo dry in upstate NY that most of my mud bogs on the trails I ride are almost dry.

[mudbug3]

Hydro traxx on Outlaws

I looked at the highlifter "outlaw" tires on the web, and was most impressed They have a VERY large, thick and aggressive tread pattern. There is also wide spacing between each lug, that gives them exellent mud sheading ability.

One tread wraps almost to the edge of the side wall of the tire, and every other tread wraps around the side wall, and is cupped upwards and outwards, to scoop the mud. The way these side treads are shaped and alternated, around both sides of each tire,, I think they might just have some swimming ability

The way the side treads wrap around, I think they would scoop water as well , and swim better than the Raw hides.

The key to the swimming ability of the Outlaws, is their unique alternating treads,that cup upwards and outwards

[mudbug3]

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[mudbug3]

Hydro Traxx with twin props

[mudbug3]

I guess after watching this video , there is now no doubt that the High Lifter , Outlaw tires, really do swim . If you watch the end of the video very closely , you will see that both props on the back of the Hydro Traxx , are in the uplifted position

[mudbug3]

[QUOTE=mightymaxIV ] He also said that they swim really well with the outlaws . He said it swims better with the out laws than the standard 25 " Goodyears-thats hard to believe




Dan ,


Here is your proof now .

[SWAMP HAWG]

I just wish I could fit a set of outlaws on my Attex