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  • #16
    Cobalt,
    Interesting thoughts on a 589 in the middle. Seems like that might make it turn a little better too.

    Your findings with 26" Kenda Executioners really have me pondering a set as I'm after 26s as well. The notion of still being able to swim decent while having the added traction to actually get out of the water sounds really good. Seems like trying to climb out of water holes is when my Terras fall short sometimes. I can't remember if your post said anything about ride quality with the Executioners. Any thoughts on their ride?
    1984 Hustler 980 and some other toys that won't even swim.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by cclingma View Post
      Cobalt,
      Interesting thoughts on a 589 in the middle. Seems like that might make it turn a little better too.

      Your findings with 26" Kenda Executioners really have me pondering a set as I'm after 26s as well. The notion of still being able to swim decent while having the added traction to actually get out of the water sounds really good. Seems like trying to climb out of water holes is when my Terras fall short sometimes. I can't remember if your post said anything about ride quality with the Executioners. Any thoughts on their ride?
      The executioners are not the roughest ride but they are not an entirely smooth ride either.

      Any tire that has decent mud/water clearing ability will have larger spaces between the lugs. This causes ups and downs and you get vibration on hard pack.

      The executioners are a little rougher than itp 589's, rougher than interco swamplites, or reptiles.

      On stumps/trees/logs/rocks the executioners are smooth compared to the original argo tires that tend to slip grind over hard obstacles.

      On a regular atv (4 wheels) the vibration of the executioners is a bit more noticeable due the the suspension system. The springs amplify the vibration.

      One of my favourite atv tires is the still the Lumber Jack. Talk about long lasting.

      GBC Powersports Tires provides durable, performance ATV/UTV off-road tires at an affordable price. As an American family-owned and operated company since 1976, we aim to provide you with the service you deserve and quality you can trust.


      Also this duro brand tire is very good on an argo.



      I know that i sold a-lot of these duro HF-243 to local aatv owners (repeat business).
      Last edited by cobalt; 03-13-2010, 10:39 PM.

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      • #18
        When I wrote a post on route6x6 about putting six Gator atv tires on my Max IV, the forum members there told me that the Gator tires would ride really rough, because they are six ply tires. Well , after reading postings like this, and experiencing how hard the ride was with the Good year, terra tires on my Max IV, I decided to run my Gator tires at zero psi. To me, at this air pressure, the Gator tires rode just about the same as my Good year ,terra tires. No better ,and surely no worse. I now ride with them at 3 psi. When ever I see a pot hole or rutt on the trail, I roll into it, and then slowly roll out of it. My back feels much better when I ride this way. I,m very sure I,ll be putting some Kenda Executioners on my Hustler, Big foot this summer. Cobalt,s experience with them convinced me that they swim. Thats all I needed to know.

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        • #19
          Have fun.

          It's true about the pressure.

          I run mine at 4-6psi (sometimes more) when in rough terain.

          The more pressure the rougher the ride.

          Lower pressure equals less clearing of debris.

          I bought a couple spring seats that are like a boat seats with comfort springs in them.

          They simply sit on top of the argo seat much like a seat cousion . Saved my aching back.

          There's still three feet of snow and ice here. Can you say cabin fever? or is it AATV envy?
          Last edited by cobalt; 03-13-2010, 11:15 PM.

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          • #20
            The Kenda Executioners won,t swim as fast as a Good year terra tire , but if cobalt says they,ll swim 80 % as fast as an Argo frontier tire, thats probably at least 2 mph or better in the water. For the kind of riding that I do, I can live with that.

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            • #21
              I would like the see what people on here have in ideas as to the perfect AATV tire?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by mudbug3 View Post
                The Kenda Executioners won,t swim as fast as a Good year terra tire , but if cobalt says they,ll swim 80 % as fast as an Argo frontier tire, thats probably at least 2 mph or better in the water. For the kind of riding that I do, I can live with that.
                @mudbug3

                I use my frontier to plow the yard in winter. I run the executioners at about 4.5psi to get as much tread surface to contact the ice. When i do spin out it does vibrate quite a bit. You can't have too much loose in freezing cold temperatures.

                I prefer the interco swamplites or reptiles over the kenda executioners for winter use.

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                • #23
                  Ideas about the perfect amphib tire. hmm ? I guess that question will vary a lot by each forum member, based on the kind of riding that they do. MightymaxIV, Ga Mudbug , Mike, the forum administrator , jpswift , Don, and myself, all think that the Interco , ASX tire is pretty darn close. At 2 psi the ASX measure just short of 14 inches wide. The wider tire or track that you use, the lower psi thats exerted on the ground. The ASX rides better than a Gator or Mud bug atv tire. The extra width of this tire at really low air pressure, and the aggressive side lug design , really helps when climbing out of rutts dug by agressive tire atv,s.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by mudbug3 View Post
                    Ideas about the perfect amphib tire. hmm ? I guess that question will vary a lot by each forum member, based on the kind of riding that they do. MightymaxIV, Ga Mudbug , Mike, the forum administrator , jpswift , Don, and myself, all think that the Interco , ASX tire is pretty darn close. At 2 psi the ASX measure just short of 14 inches wide. The wider tire or track that you use, the lower psi thats exerted on the ground. The ASX rides better than a Gator or Mud bug atv tire. The extra width of this tire at really low air pressure, and the aggressive side lug design , really helps when climbing out of rutts dug by agressive tire atv,s.
                    I have used the normal (TSL) vampires on several atvs and they have very good water displacement, much better than the kendas. However they wear down quickly on every other terrain but water. The vampires are also $$$$$

                    Last edited by cobalt; 03-13-2010, 11:49 PM.

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                    • #25
                      cobalt,


                      This is a video of boncrshr driving his hustler 950 across the Sabine river. He has 13 x10 x9, Vampire TSL tires, that are mounted on Matt,s 9 inch, bead lock rims. Would you say that the Kenda Executioner tires swim faster than this, or about the same?


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                      • #26
                        Well. I would have preferred a more of a side angle view.

                        I would have to say maybe a little faster for the kendas. But don't quote me on that, the video is a little fuzzy. He looks like he hit bottom a couple times between floatings.

                        Also that's a hustler. They generally go better (smoother) in water than an argo.

                        I will watch the video a few times.
                        Last edited by cobalt; 03-14-2010, 10:47 PM.

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                        • #27
                          With the frontier level i would say it's about the same. Perhaps a little faster on the kendas.

                          Remember i'm also 40lbs heavier than before with the new engine + the weight in back to level out my frontier.

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