Old tire woes

[MIteyMT]

I gotta tell ya. I got motivated and when out and started the old beast today, and can't wait to replace my roll pins with bolts. That was a real heartache last year. But, the other heartache was my non-beadlock rims. I was constantly knocking tires (rawhides on the corners and runamucks in the middle) off of the rims. I added bottles and bottles of green slime. Those just don't seal all that well it seems like. I would like to have a good year this year and stare at my inner wheel area a lot less. With non-beadlocks, should I:
A:Get beadlocks and new tires
B:Tube my tires and put a whole bunch of slime between the tube and the tire and also inside the tube etc.
C:Foam fill the tubes
I look at new tires, and they do not seem to have much more traction than the ones I have on it right now, I need some help! Just can't have another season of tires off the rim and sheared pins

[MIteyMT]

The day I got her, just to give you a look at tire situation

[racerone3]

slime only makes the problem worse, it acts as a lubricant and helps the tire slide off the bead. your limited to 22" tires on that machine, so pretty much limited to 8" rims. some K-locks from recreative would work well. your tires are also a good part of your roll pin problem. they are 2 different sizes and that makes them want to roll at different speeds. they can't because they are connected by the chain, so either a tire has to break traction constantly, or the roll pin has to break. i'd still replace roll pins with bolts though. come to think of it, your tires are probably spinning on the rims and that is helping them break beads too. take a red paint pen and mark each tire and rim, then go for a short drive. i bet when you stop some of the marks won't line up.

[LarryW]

24 frontiers can work(from what I read) but there is a variation in the size and its soooo close to not fitting. http://www.6x6world.com/forums/argo-...-conquest.html

Racerone3 had some good points there!

The front and rear end of that machine is sagging with tires being bigger in the middle. ouch

I wouldnt run tubes. I would get 8 matching tires and see how your bead situation goes. Racerone3 had a good point with the slime and tires so maybe with no slime, 8 good tires you may be ok.

[Roger S]

I've been told there's no room for frontier tires on the early 8 wheel bodies.

I really like Permatex High Tack gasket sealer, in a can/brush in lid. I get the wheels and tire beads really clean and dry, then coat them really good before mounting. It works good on rims that lost their paint, it coats the bare metal. Let the glue dry for days if possible.

The reason tires dismount is they get "lubed" in a mudhole. The glue prevents this. You can also slime the tire after gluing. To dismount and clean a tire, soak the bead in mineral spirits or paint thinner as you pull the bead back.

I found tubes a waste of time and $

If $ was no object, I'd put the new runamuk replacement on it. (mini frontier 22")

[racerone3]

24 frontiers can work(from what I read) but there is a variation in the size and its soooo close to not fitting. http://www.6x6world.com/forums/argo-...-conquest.html
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Larry, i doubt that 24's will work. those early 80's argo had less clearance than a conquest. the center tires look a lot like the ones i had on mine. if i had to guess, i'd say those are 20" runamucks on the center that have some broken bands (judging by how round the tread area is) and they are stretched to about the same size as a 22" runamuck. they are almost touching each other in the center, and are probably just about rubbing the body too

[LarryW]

Ok, guess I am confused on this argo stuff. I thought all where the same up until the current design with hood that opens up in front. With exception to the bigfoot models. So just to make sure Im clear, the slated grill styles axles are placed closer then the screen style on the conquest show in this link. This link is also the one I was thinking of when I first read this post. My buddy has a response. His grill is slated, so is his the same as the one posted here?
Thanks!

http://www.6x6world.com/forums/argo-atvs/11269-whats-biggest-tire-anyone-has-8x8.html

[Roger S]

I don't know if it's axle spacing, or I bet lower tub clearance. And I'm not up on pre response/conquest models. They both came out around 1995.

[MIteyMT]

I really appreciate the permatex advice, because I can afford it. When I look at runamucks, it seems like they don't ever get much more traction than the ones I have, are these truly worn out tires, I will take some more pictures
Also, I am just thinking with foam or rubberized products that there ought to be a way to fix these up to where they almost can't be flat, or if they are it doesn't really matter because they are glued on so darn good. We will see. you are sure right about the body sag in the middle.

[MIteyMT]

So today I was offered a set of wheels that has a bead on both sides. My argo wheels do not have a bead on each side. The inboard side is just smooth, and with only three to five pounds of air, maybe this is my problem? What I am saying it that the bead of the tire has to overcome an oversized area and then "pop" into place only on one side of my rims, but my local max dealer has old max rims with this feature on both sides of the rim, is this my answer?

[Roger S]

It might help if they were coming off or leaking on the inside. Maybe your wheels are golf cart wheels, etc, non argo.