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    Was out yesterday with the grandkids and the wife found a deep snow drift and low and behold got stuck up on it (took tracks off -stupid move) - what I saw was that the right wheels where spinning but the left side where not - until she put the right brake on - then the left started to spin - when she let off the right brake - left side stopped spinning again - I was under the assumption that all wheels are to turn when brakes are off. ->> Question - is this normal for these machines or do I have a problem?
    Last edited by Mike; 03-11-2013, 07:19 PM. Reason: moved thread from tire / track forum to Argo forum (assuming you have an Argo)

  • #2
    I think thats normal for an Argo trans.

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    • #3
      The argo trans. is like an open diff axle. you have to feather (apply) the left or right brakes to get power what side that has the traction in very low traction situations like snow drifts or very deep mud holes. unlike the trans(t20) in a max, that is true all wheel drive.

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      • #4
        It's working right. In order to get your Argo to ack like all wheel drive like T20 you will need to be fast with the right and left sticks.

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        • #5
          The T-20 gives you true all wheel drive, and like it was said, the Argo transmission is a differential, so only only one set of wheels will spin at a time. This is also why the engine struggles under slow speed turning with an Argo.......the differential robs a good bit of power. If you jerk the left and right sticks back and forth real fast on an Argo at high RPMs it'll generate a lot of shock load on the drive line.
          "Looks like you have a problem with your 4 wheeler........you're missin' two wheels there"
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          • #6
            Take a look at the videos in this thread, it may help you understand. Two camera angles, same Argo w/ wheel spin. http://www.6x6world.com/forums/trans...vs-t-20-a.html
            The good news is, with some practice you CAN learn to feather the brakes just right....and keep up with the t-20 based machines.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by thebuggyman1 View Post
              Take a look at the videos in this thread, it may help you understand. Two camera angles, same Argo w/ wheel spin. http://www.6x6world.com/forums/trans...vs-t-20-a.html
              The good news is, with some practice you CAN learn to feather the brakes just right....and keep up with the t-20 based machines.


              Good point Jim, a little time behind the sticks will get an average person enough skill to keep up with a t20, not to mention having a high and low range.

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              • #8
                My Bazoo is true 6 wheel drive also.
                When i get high centered all 6 are spinning.
                Wish I could put a taller tire on to gain some ground clearance.

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                • #9
                  Thanks for the videos and I really appreciate the comments - Practice makes perfect- Lets all just have fun with what we have LOL

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                  • #10
                    Is the Admiral trans any better?
                    Stand for the Flag. Kneel for the Cross.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Rusty-Gunn View Post
                      Is the Admiral trans any better?
                      It works on a differential as well, but I think they say it's a "triple differential". I drove an Argo with the Admiral transmission and I'll certainly pass on that and stick with a T-20 machine all day, but to each their own. It's whatever you like best.
                      "Looks like you have a problem with your 4 wheeler........you're missin' two wheels there"
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                      • #12
                        Notes on Tracked Vehilcle Steering

                        T20 is clutch-brake steering
                        non-admiral Argo is braked-differential steering
                        Admiral is triple differential steering

                        Only the Admiral is positively true all wheel drive no matter what.

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                        • #13
                          So Gents, excuse my ignorance in these matters but can the T20 be fitted to an Ago? If so would it be worth the hassle and what would the costs be?

                          Thanks

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by rodp View Post
                            So Gents, excuse my ignorance in these matters but can the T20 be fitted to an Ago? If so would it be worth the hassle and what would the costs be?

                            Thanks


                            Is it worth the hassle? Ask Mike when he's done.....nobody else knows yet.
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                            • #15
                              So I guess the answer is yes, yes and lots of time and $$$
                              Awesome work

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