Buying a new HDI

[lamonte Halleran]

Hi there do your hdi have bucket seats.
I have a 2006 avenger and want to up grade to a new hdi and i want to get as much input from the other argo owners

[1999f1504x4]

When u guys say ur using them for commercial use what generally are you using them for just out of curiosity. I have 1000 lbs in the back of my hdi everyday and I have driven it in low many days straight and sure its warm inside but I have had no major issues yet. I have 120 hours on it. How many hours do u guys have one yours?

[mudbug3]

Hi there do your hdi have bucket seats.
I have a 2006 avenger and want to up grade to a new hdi and i want to get as much input from the other argo owners

I talked to an Argo dealer and he told me that you had to order a new Avenger 8x8 with suspended buckets seats when you order it , because the frame is different on the Avenger that takes suspended bucket seats. In other words, if you have an Argo Avenger that did,nt come with suspended bucket seats from ODG,,you can,t install them later on.

[Rock Doctor]

When u guys say ur using them for commercial use what generally are you using them for just out of curiosity. I have 1000 lbs in the back of my hdi everyday and I have driven it in low many days straight and sure its warm inside but I have had no major issues yet. I have 120 hours on it. How many hours do u guys have one yours?

Well, I can't speak for the other guys here, but for the machines I'm referring to:
120 hrs can be put on the machines in 2-3weeks
Loads include lots of tools, there is no "forgetting" something, they take every tool they think they might need every time they leave the shops.
Oils
Glycol
Corrosion inhibitor
Methanol pumps
Hyper guns
Air comps
Herman nelsons
Gas
Food
E rations
First aid equipment
Survival gear
Water
Ladders
Spare parts
Generators
Torch/propane
Gas axe
Minimum of 2 guys ( that can be 600+ lbs right there sometimes, lol)
ECT

These machines live and die on tracks

RD

[thejunkman]

Just had a 2011 hdi arrive at my shop today for repairs 82 hrs on it admiral tranny will not stay in gear keeps jumping out sounds like shifting forks to me.

[yellowknife argo]

I bought a 2010 HDI 750 avenger last year and it is great.My friend got a 2004 700 avenger and it's no comparison to the HDI.

[Rock Doctor]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]6815[/ATTACH]Pic says it all 50+ miles off the road full camp for 10 days and bull moose in the back.

It's a great pic, and does say alot, but I don't see where it says that quads or argos can't make a trip like that



RD

[mudbug3]

Just had a 2011 hdi arrive at my shop today for repairs 82 hrs on it admiral tranny will not stay in gear keeps jumping out sounds like shifting forks to me.

thejunkman


Was this Argo being used in low gear for long periods of time ,and also counter rotating a lot?

[Rock Doctor]

I bought a 2010 HDI 750 avenger last year and it is great.My friend got a 2004 700 avenger and it's no comparison to the HDI.

Would you be willing to expand on that at all? I'm interested in varying viewpoints, and experience in different conditions. Is it simply that you have more power and can turn a little tighter in Low that makes it "No Comparison"? I have 2 friends that run 2004 Avengers, and have had very little in the way of problems. One of them has replaced an Idler brng and an Axle Brng, the other has not had to do anything other than routine maintenance (I always bug them that their machines don't have enough power to hurt themselves)
I also know of one 2004 that had Trans problems, but I believe that was a known issue (weak or undersized Snapring holding a gear on a shaft) and has an upgrade/fix available.
I'm not impressed with the tires that came on the 2004's, but if you don't do much swimming it's a non-issue.

RD

[mudbug3]

Damn I use atrailer and haul a heavy load every year. I might just be getting the mudd ox after all but the HDIwas so smooth.

akpride


Before I bought my 2011, Argo Frontier , I used to own a 2010, Mudd-Ox 8x8. I have ridden an Argo 8x8 , HDI with tracks ,and when compared to the Mudd-Ox 8x8 with tracks that I used to own, the heavier Mudd-Ox rode even better than the Argo HDI. With a lighter machine you get tossed around a lot more when driving through very rough terrain.

[akexpress]

It's a great pic, and does say alot, but I don't see where it says that quads or argos can't make a trip like that



RD

RD you are absolutely right because there were in fact two 700cc quads on this trip (Yamaha Grizzlys). However we most times cannot get them thru the swamps to where we end up downing the moose or if we can get them there they can not haul much out at a time. the Mudd-Ox can haul the whole moose and three people where ever we point it. Also we used to take an argo back there prior to the Mudd-Ox. It was not an HDI. the problem with the argo was that about 20 miles back there is a very very steep long hill (2500 ft of vertical over about a mile) that the argo was hard to control going down and could not climb up with out a quad either pulling or pushing it up. This hill has some turns in it and trying to negoiate the turns with the argo would rob enough power that it could not climb it without assistance and this is with out a trailer. The Mudd-Ox allows the descent with great control and climbs it with the trailer easily. In fact if the quads are towing trailers we use the Ox to assist them up the hill. Argos have a long good history here in Alaska and are very capable machines it just seems like the Mudd-Ox offers some advantages and is definately built stronger although that comes with a weight penalty. BTW I appreciate your informative experienced posts and your are a true asset to these forums.

[Rock Doctor]

Hey, you know I never really considered decending a hill like that with an Argo, especially a heavily loaded Argo. Could turn into a runaway "Deathtrap" pretty easy if you're not right on top of things. Imagine snapping an idler chain on the way down
Anyway it is a great pic

RD

[mightymaxIV]

AK- a Mudd Ox certainly has some advantages in areas you described. Having seen Mudbugs track equipped Mudd Ox up close and personal I can tell you they are well built and unstoppable in the mud. The ability to change directions any time is a great advantage climbing, ascending or any other trail condition. Very powerful machine.

[lamonte Halleran]

hi there just wanted to know what did you mean when you said about the hdi pulling
a trailer.

[akpride]

I think he was talking about towing a meat trailer with a big load causing belt/tray heat issues