Attex Springer

[chapy]

Whipper, How soon is the kit comming out for the argo bigfoot. And could you still run super tracks?

[whipper-ag]

[techfx]

Bridget fixed Mike (Techfx) up for his 1st ride in the Spider. Videos will be posted when ready.

Whipper

We really appreciated the good time and help on my max. I now believe that a good 4 stroke can as much fun (maybe more) as good 2 stroke. lets see if the video shows me using the skid plate in front of Whipper?

[George]

Hi 6x6,

I believe it is the first time an Apache Gear springer has seen snow. I shot it just this week. It was a blast spinning around in it.

[6X6]

Wow, when did you shoot that, George? Great shot of you flinging some snow, is this the first time an Apache Gear springer has seen snow? We just got a sprinkel of snow here today, can't wait for some to stick and get the Wolf out in it. Of course, a racer would be better, and if it were SPRINGER

[rdr]

Great George, that video looks like you were having a blast. Love the 360's. You know we are jealous. I really want to try my machine in the snow, but we don't get much snow in the Piedmont area.

Thanks for the video
Lewis

amen lewis .

[lewis]

Snow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great George, that video looks like you were having a blast. Love the 360's. You know we are jealous. I really want to try my machine in the snow, but we don't get much snow in the Piedmont area.

Thanks for the video
Lewis

[George]

Thanks MB.

This video was shot at the same time the Arizona springers were running around in what, 70 degree weather?

[mudbug3]

CLICK ON THE URL LINK AT THE TOP OF THIS UTUBE VIDEO , AND WATCH IT IN -----> HIGH QUALITY.


YouTube - SnowSpringer2.mp4

[whipper-ag]

[George]

Does the "Springer Kit" change the ground psi compared to a standard Attex? Also, is anyone looking into testing a set for and 8x8 Argo, or, is Matt experimenting with a "Springer" Mudd-Ox?!?

I had to think about that for a bit Artist. OK, here's my take. My machine gained about 50% of its original weight and the amount of rubber touching the ground has stayed the same. So it would seem that if my ground psi was 2 lbs/ft before, it's now 3 lbs/ft (only guessing the original psi).

Anyway, with the tires being further away from the body now, I can put larger tires on that would never have fit under the tub of the old machine. Doing that would bring the psi back down but probably not to where it was. I've measured the distance between axles. From center to center is 26" It seems that would allow for a 25 inch tire (any bigger and the tires would rub each other).Then it occurred to me that on uneven ground, I might have a lower psi than a standard machine as the suspension can conform more easliy to the ground it crosses than a solid axle machine can. More tires on the ground means a lighter psi/tire. So....on flat ground, the Attex springer is heavier but on uneven terrain, it's lighter. Or at least I'd like to believe that but I think my logic is sound.

[whipper-ag]

[artist1018]

Does the "Springer Kit" change the ground psi compared to a standard Attex? Also, is anyone looking into testing a set for and 8x8 Argo, or, is Matt experimenting with a "Springer" Mudd-Ox?!?

[6X6]

What factors keep others from building their own independent suspension systems? I give you props for having mad skillz, but why is a fairly common concept not embraced by the masses?

TIME, MONEY, CNC EQUIPMENT, SKILLS. I had the honor of not only seeing but also driving George's springer(and like any other type of junkie, am now HOOKED) and this was not a matter of putting arms and shockes on a side plate. There was obviously serious time and thought into this. It rides great, makes bumps vanish, turns on a dime, Wait, No, it turns on Franklin D. Roosevelt's ear, (Seriously, George, I TOUCHED the left lateral after the second pass and in pulled an immediate 180º) DIY springers have been done before, but they never were anphibious, never this sophisticated, and I bet they still spent as much or more (A Lot More?) than this kit sells for.

OH, Here's me in George's Springer. First time driving someone else's 6-wheeler, so no Rental here.

[George]

I built a springer using Whipper's kit. He put a lot of time into its development. I can't imagine finding anyone who would be willing to do the fab work locally and I don't have the skills, experience, knowledge or machinery necessary to do it on my own.

It looks pretty simple and the kit was very easy to assemble but I'd say the hard part is the developing a system that works well.