Attex Springer

[evil8x8]

Great video!!! Hey Whipper, I see the tuned pipe is missing from the Scorpion. What powerplant is in it now?

[Mike]

Great pictures. I loved the shout-outs to the Carolina boys and of course the air bud shots were some of the best.

[whipper-ag]

The Springers & Company

[LarryW]

I agree with you LarryW, why change what is working. I was not suggesting that whipper should change his, but I was considering alternative methods to the same end, for people who want to build a similar rig, but can't get a hold of CV joints

Oh, I see. Best bet is to find some cheap ones from an automotive and use them. Have to look around and research what is best price and easy to use.

[jwiereng]

I agree with you LarryW, why change what is working. I was not suggesting that whipper should change his, but I was considering alternative methods to the same end, for people who want to build a similar rig, but can't get a hold of CV joints

[Amphiman1]

Springers!

What degree angles would a whipper style springer be subjected to? I am not a trigonometric specialist, or really not a specialist in any type of math, but from whippers posts the suspension adds 9 inches to his width, and ther is 6 inches of travel in total. This means that there is 3 inches of travel from mid to either extreme. Using the tangent ratio, such that tanX = opposite/adjacent where X is the angle in degrees, and opposite is 9 and adjacent is 3. Therefore the angle is roughly 18.4 degrees.
I would agree that this angle is a lot to ask from a U joint. Considering the speed of 60 MPH the tire rotation must about 850 RPM.
I see some U joints from Princess Auto rated for 15 degree continuous at 1000 rpm. They are 30$ each

check my math, I might be off, not my forte

Wayyyyyyyyy over my head on this one....
i'ld prefer to leave it to the scientists..lol

[LarryW]

What degree angles would a whipper style springer be subjected to? I am not a trigonometric specialist, or really not a specialist in any type of math, but from whippers posts the suspension adds 9 inches to his width, and ther is 6 inches of travel in total. This means that there is 3 inches of travel from mid to either extreme. Using the tangent ratio, such that tanX = opposite/adjacent where X is the angle in degrees, and opposite is 9 and adjacent is 3. Therefore the angle is roughly 18.4 degrees.
I would agree that this angle is a lot to ask from a U joint. Considering the speed of 60 MPH the tire rotation must about 850 RPM.
I see some U joints from Princess Auto rated for 15 degree continuous at 1000 rpm. They are 30$ each

check my math, I might be off, not my forte

too much time....

Why change what is working?

[jwiereng]

angles

What degree angles would a whipper style springer be subjected to? I am not a trigonometric specialist, or really not a specialist in any type of math, but from whippers posts the suspension adds 9 inches to his width, and ther is 6 inches of travel in total. This means that there is 3 inches of travel from mid to either extreme. Using the tangent ratio, such that tanX = opposite/adjacent where X is the angle in degrees, and opposite is 9 and adjacent is 3. Therefore the angle is roughly 18.4 degrees.
I would agree that this angle is a lot to ask from a U joint. Considering the speed of 60 MPH the tire rotation must about 850 RPM.
I see some U joints from Princess Auto rated for 15 degree continuous at 1000 rpm. They are 30$ each

check my math, I might be off, not my forte

[LarryW]

Would a pair of U joints work as well, instead of CV joints. I hear from mud bogging crowd that they are a bit mor suited to the exposure to elements then CV which can give up after water or dirt get into the boot

They used u joints in old school springer. I believe the degree of the angle is beyond there suggested rating. cv's can take it better.

[jwiereng]

Would a pair of U joints work as well, instead of CV joints. I hear from mud bogging crowd that they are a bit mor suited to the exposure to elements then CV which can give up after water or dirt get into the boot

[jwiereng]

slip spline

How is the problem of compensating for the difference in requires axle lengths at different angles accommodated? If I understand the design correctly the axle would need to be shortest when is suspension is about half compressed, ie the axle is perpendicular to the tubwall and it need to be longer when fully relaxed or fully compressed. Is there a slip spline in the axle linkage to facilitate this?

thanks

[jerseybigfoot]

Whipper, Neet camera, I also see they have a waterproof case for the camera also. I have the same issues with vibration with my camera rigs. You may want to play with some ballast attached to the mounting point below the camera. Kind of counterweight below where it pivots on the clamp. There is also some Steady Cam software available. I have seen some examples of video taken from remote control helicopters that seem to help with the vibration.

[mudbug3]

Whipper,

Thanks for posting the pics of where and how you mounted your Flip camera. I love my Flip Ultra. Its super easy to use ,and the video,s shot with it still look good even in low light. I,ve been using Window,s Movie maker to edit all of my video,s before I upload them to utube. Window,s Movie maker does not let you do a whole lot to a video file as far as editing goes,, but , you can sure produce some nice looking video,s with it , if you have a Flip camera.

[whipper-ag]

[brushcutter]

WOW! Whipper,THAT has GOT to be FUN!!! I gotta say you actually had me leaning from side to side in my chair trying to throw some body english for you,as you tore up those curves.I was wondering why you go by "WHIPPER".Seeing you "whip" around those turns leaves no doubt!