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  • Originally posted by MadJack View Post
    Thanks all for the welcome and info. I work in the construction industry and will be done for the season, cant lay asphault over snow, lol. I will start the deconstruction phase on the centepede this winter to get a better idea of just how bad things are. I will try to take plenty of pictures along the way, both to post and for referance purposes. I will be giving it a shot at repairing this thing mainly for the coolness of it and not seeing many of them around here. Might even take it to some car shows with my 74 Dodge Challenger i am also restoring. Let the work begin.
    Sounds good, keep us updated! And a 74 Challenger.......Ooooooo I love those E body Mopars! I'd trade you for one of my 6 wheelers, haha.
    "Looks like you have a problem with your 4 wheeler........you're missin' two wheels there"
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    • Hello to all. I am new to the 6X6 community. My son and I purchased an Action Age Scrambler locally yesterday. The unit is in need of repair. Motor is out and disassembled, got another 8hp engine and a running 440 snowmobile engine with it. The machine seems to be in decent shape but mechanically will be completely gone through. Where can I get the best manuals for this machine? I want to get the machine running with the original set-up, then later look into swapping out w/ the 440 snowmobile engine. Any advice would be appreciated.

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      • Hi dsmicro2, welcome to the site and congratulations on your Scrambler. There are a couple of manuals submitted by members here on the site in the manual section: Scrambler ATV Manual

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        • hi all i am new to the site, my name is Brian and i am new to the hustler 6x6 thing. so i am asking for some help please. I just got one with a bombardier 340 motor in it.. There is no numbers on it so i dont no what i have. i will try to get a few pics of it today.
          been doing alot of reading on here and this is a very good site.

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          • Hey Brian, welcome to the site. I look forward to seeing pictures of your Hustler.

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            • Hello everyone,

              My name is Scott & I lime in Pottsville, PA.
              I have been considering a 6x6 or 8x8 for some time and have been trying to do some research to help educate myself a little before deciding on which one. (this may have been a mistake because I am now more confused than ever :-) )

              I am leaning heavily toward an 8x8 although I like the utility aspect of the Max Buffalo.
              Is the Buffalo under powered for its size and ability to haul?

              I mostly want it for play but it is easier to tell myself I can use it for some work also ha,ha.
              I will want to be able to push snow for sure though.

              I am considering argo & mudd ox also.
              The mudd ox site has virtually no specs or information, I have read here that there is a diesel version but can find nothing about it.

              The transmission/driveline differences are also most confusing.

              Argo seems to have a new one, not sure what improvement it made or how it differs from the MAX T-20(?) Is it similar now?

              Mudd-ox seems to have some sort of hydraulic to chain hybrid drive system, again not a lot of details on their site. In their defense I emailed them & they got back to me same day asking me to call them to discuss, which I will do. I had hoped to get something in black & white that I could use to compare to the Argo & Max specs though.

              I have a Steiner tractor that is hydraulic drive & has been trouble free for 12+ years but there are no chains involved.

              My Father had a Ranger 6x6 side by side with a dump bed & plow It's been decent but he has had clutch problems. I'm not sure pushing snow is a good thing for it's drivetrain.

              I also came across HydroTraxx, Hydrotrek, Land Tamer, Kid, Balrog,Triton & a few others that have very little info out there.

              Most of the information I have been able to find is either MAX or Argo.

              I have looked & hoped to find some sort of up to date comparison chart somewhere -- no luck.

              I would like to purchase in the next month or so but how do I decide with limited knowledge?

              I have babbled on enough for now.

              Thank You,

              Scott
              struggling with what to buy

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              • hey im Jesse, I live in northern michigan, where i can play in everything from 5'+ of snow in the winter, to the thickest nastiest swamps known to man. I'm thinkin bout gettin a 6X6 Mud Buddy from an old boy down the road. I wanna put tracks on it but im not sure. Im new at this stuff so if yall have any suggestions or tips i would like to hear em. If yall know anything bout Mud Buddy 6x6's i definately wanna hear what ya have to say bout em.
                "can you skin grizz pilgrim?" "yep, i can skin most anything"

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                • Scott and Jesse, welcome to the site. Scott, I am going to copy your post out to the general 6x6 forum for better exposure / answers to your questions. Jesse, Do you have a picture of the Mud Buddy? Is that the brand or model, or is that just what someone is calling it?

                  With 5 feet of snow though, you will probably want tracks on whatever 6x6 you get.

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                  • Whats up from Maine! Just bought an argo response and joined this forum cuz I know nothing about these badass machines! One major question is, what should I not do? or what hurts/breaks these 8x8's? Ive been riding 4wheelers and dirtbikes my whole life, and like to push machines to its limit but dont want to make stupid expensive repairs if I can avoid them. thanks!

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                    • Hi! I've been researching the 6x6 and 8x8's for a while now. I'm gonna jump on the bandwagon as soon as I'm comfortable with my future decision.
                      I MAY end up going custom-everything out there seems to have it's high points however no ONE machine seems to have it ALL. (Except maybe BWII's beast!)
                      My dream machine, based on what I've learned would have 25 horsepower, T20, Dual sprocket setup, solid axels, 26" mud lights and room for 4 adults (I'm 6'3) and their rifles. 35-40 MPH
                      I would use it for Hunting, plowing snow, and having some fun weekends with the family. The Max IV catches my attention but unless the Buffalo Truck and the Max IV have a baby there wouldn't be enough room for gear?? Seems like the Argo is better geared for hunting- don't like the Differential steering theory though.
                      The other people in my group run the Ranger and Rhino UTV's. Is there a trail comparison between the 6x6 and these? I'ld appreciate any opinions and guidance you all could provide and thank you for bringing so much information into one area!

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                      • hello, been looking around here for a while now because i picked up 2 amphicats from an oldtimer, there in really rough shape, not sure about what year they are, but i think they are one of the first generation. they both have Sachs 2 stroke engines and the odg or whatever trans in them. one engine is siezed up solid the other spins over,with compression! dont know if these are worth spending the time on to try and make one good one, any pointers would be nice ! thanks

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                        • acharrette, TripleTriple and Amphiguy, welcome to the site.

                          Originally posted by TripleTriple View Post
                          Hi! I've been researching the 6x6 and 8x8's for a while now. I'm gonna jump on the bandwagon as soon as I'm comfortable with my future decision.
                          I MAY end up going custom-everything out there seems to have it's high points however no ONE machine seems to have it ALL. (Except maybe BWII's beast!)
                          My dream machine, based on what I've learned would have 25 horsepower, T20, Dual sprocket setup, solid axels, 26" mud lights and room for 4 adults (I'm 6'3) and their rifles. 35-40 MPH
                          I would use it for Hunting, plowing snow, and having some fun weekends with the family. The Max IV catches my attention but unless the Buffalo Truck and the Max IV have a baby there wouldn't be enough room for gear?? Seems like the Argo is better geared for hunting- don't like the Differential steering theory though.
                          The other people in my group run the Ranger and Rhino UTV's. Is there a trail comparison between the 6x6 and these? I'ld appreciate any opinions and guidance you all could provide and thank you for bringing so much information into one area!
                          TripleTriple, the Max IV is a little limited with respect to cargo room if you are going to be carrying other people and gear with you. Several people on the site have made some storage areas under the seat by hinging it. That would help a lot. In fact, I just reread your post where you plan on hauling 4 adults. Four full sized people would be a tight fit in a Max IV even without gear. In that regard, it is hard to beat an 8x8 for the extra room. The Argo would definitely suit your hunting needs much better. As far as a comparison between the mainstream side by sides and amphibious ATVs, it is really comparing two completely different machines. The 6x6 or 8x8 will go a lot more places, and of course they float. The Rangers and Rhinos will give you a better ride with a higher top speed. If you are mainly riding groomed trails you probably wouldn't appreciate the capabilities of an AATV. If you are going places that have difficult terrain, mud, water, etc. then there is no comparison. The AATV will take you much further than any side by side could.

                          Originally posted by Amphiguy View Post
                          hello, been looking around here for a while now because i picked up 2 amphicats from an oldtimer, there in really rough shape, not sure about what year they are, but i think they are one of the first generation. they both have Sachs 2 stroke engines and the odg or whatever trans in them. one engine is siezed up solid the other spins over,with compression! dont know if these are worth spending the time on to try and make one good one, any pointers would be nice ! thanks
                          Amphiguy, do you have any pictures so we can see what kind of shape they are in?

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                          • Thanks Mike

                            I really don't know where to post the last few questions I have so I'll throw them in here. Maybe you could copy them to the appropriate forum?
                            I understand the ride characteristics of the aATV's vs side by sides during "high speed" and light trails (picture test drive scenarios). The characteristics that are more important to me are things that I can't really test in a ten minute ride.

                            1) The aAtv's in general seem to be VERY stabile when off-camber and in the "steepies" How do the Argo's and MaxIV's compare to the Side by Sides in this situation?
                            (I made the mistake of asking the only dealer around for permission to test that instead of forgivness LOL)
                            2) From what I gather from reading, the Max IV's will compression brake? with a CVT??...or is that just using the brakes and or mechanical resistance of the the d-train?

                            Again, thanks for any input

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                            • I can sympathize with the storage issue. When I bought my Buffalo, I installed a Delta toolbox in the dump bed using four carriage bolts and wingnuts. It can be disconnected and offloaded in about five minutes. Also, I bought a trailer for it from Ohio Steel. When I assembled the trailer, I caulked all the through-bolts, so the tub doesn't leak. While RI doesn't recommend swimming with a trailer, the buffalo swims better with the trailer than without it. I've floated the pair with a 100 lb mushroom anchor and 150 lbs of chain in it without issue. I would think that a Max IV with a trailer like mine would transport a family of four with gear just fine. This year, I hope to put skis on the trailer to haul over the snowmobile trails when the Buffalo's tracks are on.

                              Originally posted by Mike View Post
                              acharrette, TripleTriple and Amphiguy, welcome to the site.



                              TripleTriple, the Max IV is a little limited with respect to cargo room if you are going to be carrying other people and gear with you. Several people on the site have made some storage areas under the seat by hinging it. That would help a lot. In fact, I just reread your post where you plan on hauling 4 adults. Four full sized people would be a tight fit in a Max IV even without gear. In that regard, it is hard to beat an 8x8 for the extra room. The Argo would definitely suit your hunting needs much better. As far as a comparison between the mainstream side by sides and amphibious ATVs, it is really comparing two completely different machines. The 6x6 or 8x8 will go a lot more places, and of course they float. The Rangers and Rhinos will give you a better ride with a higher top speed. If you are mainly riding groomed trails you probably wouldn't appreciate the capabilities of an AATV. If you are going places that have difficult terrain, mud, water, etc. then there is no comparison. The AATV will take you much further than any side by side could.


                              Amphiguy, do you have any pictures so we can see what kind of shape they are in?
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                              • I can sympathize with the storage issue. When I bought my Buffalo, I installed a Delta toolbox in the dump bed with four carriage bolts and wingnuts. It can be removed in about five minutes. Also, I bought a trailer from Ohio Steel. When I assembled the trailer, I caulked all of the through-bolts so it wouldn't leak. While RI doesn't recommend swimming with a trailer, I think the Buffalo swims better with the trailer than without it. I've floated with a 100 lb mushroom anchor and 150 lbs of chain in the trailer without incident. A trailer like mine behind a Max IV should handle the gear of a family of four pretty easily. This year, I hope to build some skis for the trailer to haul over the snowmobile trails when my Buffalo's tracks are on.
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