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  • riotwarrior
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    I don't feel that doing things right is too much to ask for and when you take a yard sale 35 buck WARN 2000# winch you be happy it's working and in decent shape. The few bits of wire I had to redo are fine, cleans up the whole thing and well worth the effort.

    Had to pull control box out as I don't have enough 4ga primary wire to run to battery and I'm doing that once and once only, so until I come up with a bit more wire I'll wait to install it, besides I have to be in parade tomorrow for SAR display.

    I have 3 strobes, BLUE and RED on rear of machine, and an ORANGE on the front, as well as a CODE three 5 way rotating beacon in GREEN

    All the lights are working and I can make 3 stobes or Green flashy one on or all 4.

    Took inlfated tyres to 17 lbs and they have a hell of a crown on em. BIG TIME CROWN...absolutely perfect for doing high speed donuts in parade. Should be really fun and I'm tellin ya by end of parade I'm near wanting to barf....imagine a nice projectile barf as I spin ferociously ...hitting all kinds of spectators causing a domino effect making them barf ...Oh I can see the headlines in the paper...SAR ....causes catastrophic vomiting at parade...no seriuosly it's fast spinning

    Rob tell us how that winch works out, I'm liking the idea of one on trailer. Mind you I've another WARN 2k winch sitting around here in shop.

    So while test driving it snapped a chain this even..that sucked so I pushed pulled drove it back to shop and tossed a new primary chain on it and found loose transmission mounting bolts. Tightened them all up, check over machine and all good.

    Another test drive and wow...sick fast with puffy tyres.

    Also had it tached out when I returned to shop, and did a Voltage test on the battery whilst running 14.5 volts while running, cut fuel and it dropped down immediately to 13.+ a wee bit..don't recal but was instant..so I'm charging!

    Plugged in charger overnight and it's snowing out so trailer will be slick tomorrow...

    All set and ready to play, I'm giving my phone to my pastor to take some vids and pics for me....hope it all turns out ok...

    Thanks for reading

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  • Nubs
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    I put one on My trailer and it seems to work alright, its mounted inside the toolbox and the wireless still works @ 30ft away.

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  • Outlaw1
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    Hey Rob,
    I was at HF the other day eyeing one of those winches. I haven't heard much about them either way. Let us know how they work out. Thanks

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  • robeye
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    Too much work ! I made a trip to Harbor Freight Tools in Spokane and bought a 2500lb Badlands winch for $49. and it came with the control box , rollerhead, all the 8 ga wires and a wireless remote.. It will be going on the Terra Jet that I keep. Or maybe change out the 2000lb on my flatdeck trailer.. it moans a lot when I drag big stuff on the deck..

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  • riotwarrior
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    Originally posted by robeye View Post
    Hey that's a great video.. I'm getting a new camera that does vid's so I'll post some too.. And the diesel is running good.. Lot's of torque from them.. but low RPM's 3200 max.. so no speeding .
    Thanks Rob, ya it's coming along nice, all pics and vids are done on my Samsung S5 Active cell phone..

    As for ahem engine speed, well this one is rated to 3600 and it's turned up a wee bit...4K

    Last night, got my 3 flashy strobes installed, I may do the green flashy light too ifn I can ZAP strap it down to winch...Hmmm...could be ok, then it won't spit off when doing some donuts!

    Today was winch control solenoid wiring. Thus this is what I had...and where it is now.

    So first up underneith the front of unit where the wires pass through this is how it's all gooped on inside with RTV


    I've got wires cut to length and crimp ends installed.


    Here is winch control box as it was wired...that quick connect originally was main power feed....it's craptastic wire, and the other end of quick connect is 14/3 extension cords with the 3 wires tied together for feed lines with large alligator clamps to hold onto battery...what a joke

    Notice to the left, the two wires with green tape, well for some reason they utilized 4 wire feed to winch motor instead of a much cleaner 2 wire feed. You will see the changes as we go along...notice where those wires come from...bottom R and top L solenoid....OK we can fix that LOL


    close up of ground feed with black on solenoid stud...these pics are for me when I do this work so if I get mixed up I can refer back to the original LOL


    Now look lose to bottom right solenoid, see the YELLOW 10/12 ring terminal...ya that was on cross over cable to upper left solenoid..so I had to fix that concoction ugh...why do people have to do stupid to everything? Why?


    EPIC...


    ahhh...now I feel better...fixed that stupid wire...more to go


    HERE are the two POWER IN wires from Battery...notice the colour on the solenoid studs depicting - and +


    Here I've got my two power wires that go to the Winch...now see how much cleaner and improved that solenoid pack is with correct wiring...ya...


    and room left over for power in, once I get more wire...ugh...


    Now this is how the control box will be on my glove box, however flip it over and tuck it in to right of fuel tank...so control box will rest ON TOP. As it is right now it's just 180 degrees out...the whole package will flip over and tuck in nicely and I can connect the controler to that funny plug visible


    This has been an interesting ordeal however I'm sure it will pay off big time with low power loss and effective winching.

    All wire is 4ga and that's bloody overkill for a 2000 lb winch but eh...maybe I'll go bigger one day.

    Stay tuned and once I get more wire to route battery to control box I'll finish that up too. Then it's a similar setup that need be run to rear for a rear 2 K winch I have here already.

    Thanks for looking.

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  • robeye
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    Hey that's a great video.. I'm getting a new camera that does vid's so I'll post some too.. And the diesel is running good.. Lot's of torque from them.. but low RPM's 3200 max.. so no speeding .

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  • riotwarrior
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    Well had a interesting afternoon yesterday. Had the Muscateer out for a bit of a drive...-12C yesterday was not going far..

    24KMH top speed on slight downhill grade 22KMH flat ground...pavement.

    Had the feed fuel line blow off IP couple times and before I knew what happened dumped crapload fuel into the tub...ROFL that's ok chains neede a good lube and degrease all in one. I'm running 100% Biodiesel right now the last of what I had. Now my chains are sparkly clean

    I'm seeing some flex of trans when I actuate R or L control in F or R and I've hopefully discovered from that the chain clatter I hear. I'll be careful and not over tax it till I can re-evaluate and reinforce mounts.

    no heat in shop last night and today it was -3 C or bout 28 F. I did a cold start video of the machine and wow...seems to work well at that temp. I'm quite impressed how well it started actually.



    For some reason the previous owner of the engine said it would not start well. Hmm...guess I know more bout diesels then?

    quite decent oil pressure when cold and not bad 42 when warm...

    Loading a video as I type so I'll add it in once it's all loaded up.

    Today I'm going to town see about some bolts for throttle pedal and speaker wire to get my flashy lights working. Hoping to bolt my throttle pedal in...wife said NOT FOR A WHILE for cable throttle purchase..you spent enough on that thing already...to get cable pedal, and she's right I have. Thus I'll do what I can to come up with some foot feed throttle..God Bless her

    Appears that all in all it is working as it should so time to refine now from my observations.

    Suppose need finnish wire that winch controller box in should be simple nuff...and then a rear 12V receptacle as well, I'd sure like to add on a 5/8 VHF whip antenna for use of SAR handhelds etc while out on machine.

    Thanks for reading
    Last edited by Mike; 12-02-2014, 08:17 PM. Reason: embedded video by using full URL and not the youtu.be version

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  • riotwarrior
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    Thanks Robeye...thanks

    Hate to say so but with the proximity of my chains and angles I need to make the bell crank work at for throttle and the fact it's so tight in the tub by the fuel filter / trans cooler pump, I've decided if Super will allow me to I"m going to get the throttle for foot feed Nubs shared in the thumb throttle thread in the Argo section.

    Thus for parade fixed throttle and away I go.

    All seems to be ok all electrical seems good so far.

    Had a small issue with left control cylinder and just promptly rebuild it with new O rings and bled the system. Now works great.

    Fired up the machine and it's working very nicely now. I'm quite pleased. The fan on the engine blows enough warm air that when I get my engine cover made I could pipe/duct that air up front if I had a cab, and have a nice warm toasty warm spot. So once I build the engine cover I'll do that next.

    Still tons of chain chatter and I see I'm getting quite a bit of flex in trans when I attempt turns so I'll have to brace my mounts somewhat.

    Well it should be good for parade and so forth then maybe back under the knife..LOL

    Thanks for looking

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  • robeye
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    Hey that's going good.. Those little diesels are good for 10,000. hours or more if serviced regular. Plus torque out the wazoo. I have the 18 hp 3 cyl in my BX.. it will start in this 18 below.

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  • riotwarrior
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    Got a few more things wrapped up today, like epoxy on the small crack on fuel tank cap, then I added a new gasket to it as well and finally a valve on the bottom of tank to drain it.

    Ahh..closed


    and Open


    That will make draining fuel for fire or water contaminant much easier I think. Just hope I don't knock it LOL but I'll try and find a better setup, this is what I had and had to make it work.

    Then onto foot feed throttle

    Pointing to old location, was a real awkward spot to actually make work with a foot. Now up front it should be much better.




    I may have to bend the foot portion or reweld it in a slightly different spot for angle/movement..but not hard to do


    With a shaft leading to rear, I'll have to make a vertical portion from down in tub and up the side, to connect onto this here. I'll also need extend this shaft some as it's currently a few inches to short. The vertical bell crank portion is what's going to be the most challenging and making sure that the foot pedal movement equates to full movement of IP throttle shaft as well.



    I've got the old vertical crank for gasser but it's too short and I need to make NEW mount brackets, thus I'm all over making a new setup somehow. however for now, and the parade, I can if need be fire and run on fixed throttle...thankfully.

    Also need some small power wire/speaker wire to make some flashy lights for parade however that will take all of 1/2 hour when I get down to it.

    Well nuff for now...

    Thanks for looking

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  • riotwarrior
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    Ah, see now Super at ...B I N G O...on Friday eve, so I was out and essentially completed the wiring as far as I can tell.

    I even added in the Voltage Regulator and it's respective wiring for charging battery. Some...though little charge is better n none till I can mount a belt driven Alt, that is internally regulated. May go to a nice new 2G I have here instead of a worn out 3G, as both are about same physical size.

    So now GP indicator shows RED when heated up, as you see here. This works by turning KEY to LEFT and preheating GP


    Here you can see I'm marking wires for VR I use a paint pen to make a permanent tracer on wires. This enables me to write a wiring diagram and have all my colours correct for tracing and so forth later. I've got yellow and brown and red wires so now I've yellow/red tracer brown/white tracer and red/white tracer made up...this is for control of VR and charge light.


    Tracer wires...LOL


    Here is VR wires prior to it being mounted


    look close you'll see the wires have same tracers and colours as above


    Here it is, the VRl mounted


    And the fuel lines as I chose to route and support them before connecting to the fuel tank.


    Electrical control panel mounted


    Ahh the TO DO LIST



    Clearly I have made a serious dent in the TO DO list.

    Some small stuff to take care of like re-install the winch control solenoid box but that's easy, and run wires. but the ones to winch are installed and sealed.

    Now this next few days will be a clean up of tub and so forth, then work on foot feed linear throttle. That coupled with a fixed throttle makes for a fine running beast.

    Heck I may even go out tonight and do the cleanup, then I can jump on throttle tomorrow afternoon...and winch wiring. WOW but I'm wanting a beer LOL

    Thanks for looking

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  • riotwarrior
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    Ahhh..Black Friday and wife went last night to the sales in US...Not sure how Thurs is the new FRIday...but WTF..she was gone, out came a lil Capt...

    So, with a lil Capt to assist my mood, I got out to shop, took some much needed pictures, and decided fuel tank needs to be physically installed. So I did...

    Here is how the wiring and plumbing for the fuel system is routed as of right now, still a bit of cleanup remains but nothing major left essentially. You can see it's all well supported and safe.

    This is the left side rear section of the machine...


    Right side rear section, need to attend to that fuel pump power wire the green one that's it to clean up IMO




    Looking forward on RH side...towards where fuel tank will be mounted shortly. Notice feed/return lines in loop awaiting connection to the tank. I've left enough to add support to the fuel lines at tank with no kinks...I'll show when I do


    Now onto the installation of the tank, here from above LH front tyre, that is a steel plate that the carriage bolts sit in without turning...that's hanging there, fresh silicone so it's sealed when I push them through




    LH side in the tub...see the tank in place too


    this is where I mount the horn..notice a single ground wire and power wire to horn..


    once tightened down not much room up in there, the pass or RH side is similar and has a small bracket that holds the glove compartment in place, I'll get some shots of it when I do fuel lines to the tank. I'm giving very serious thought to adding a petcock to the drain bung on my tank, then if needed I can draw a small amount of fuel for a fire or to drain water easily, instead of removing a big 1/2" NPT bung.


    Here I've got panel all lit up, pumps all are working all systems a go...nice..that bright RED light is LOW oil pressure warning light. 7lbs I may change that sender to a higher pressure at a later date


    I'll be mounting that panel up soon and I'm quite excited at this point to have it coming together...

    Thanks for looking

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  • riotwarrior
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    Originally posted by robeye View Post
    Hey looking good .. .next time I'm through there I'll have to have a closer look... We got the D**m white stuff too early.. wet too.
    Thanks a lot, I appreciate that.

    If all goes well and I get my ass in gear...I can go play in snow today...we got near a foot free standing...over that in cumulative last night.

    it's wet and heavy and bitch to shovel.

    Maybe we can go for a short ride when you come out....

    Take care.

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  • robeye
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    Hey looking good .. .next time I'm through there I'll have to have a closer look... We got the D**m white stuff too early.. wet too.

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  • riotwarrior
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    Well now I"ve near got it wired and plumbed, I'm holding off on some extra gauges for now but most everything is all tied up with nylon loops.

    I've got my grounds for my wiring panel mostly sorted out along with most of the mounting for it as well.

    Will attempt to get some pictures tomorrow.

    Once my basic wiring is completed I'm back onto the foot feed throttle.

    Need locate a nice box for my winch solenoids for front winch. I'll have to get a solenoid setup and control for rear one too but that's a whole new ball of wax.

    Damn nice starting to see light at end of tunnel on this portion of project...

    Can't wait to drive it again as we have about 6" of snow...for how long who knows...

    Thanks for looking

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