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I posted up a question somewhere along the line about these Duro Ag Lug tires, then I thought I saw another post about them again later. I'd sure like to hear any comments on them as they make them in my Hustler size of 25-12-12. Do they swim...ride decent? Thanks
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check with mighty maxIV he tried some maybe he can tell u . if you are replacing 25 12 12 uu might want to look at smalltires america they have a 26 terra tire copy and it's fast in the water . robbie1999 max 2 18 b&s 22 tires custom . new max iv 23 k 26 i/n tires brown . ht cable promark winch . new toy 1972 attex st400 400ccjlo and she will be bad . ( the frog )
if it don't float with out you getting wet . don't bring it ! 
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I think they ride terribly......almost like manhole covers bolted onto your hubs."Looks like you have a problem with your 4 wheeler........you're missin' two wheels there"
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cclingma ,
The Kenda Exectioner tires are what the forum member cobalt is running on his Argo Frontier. Below is what he said about the executioner tire.
( QUOTE ) ' The 26"executioners swim almost as well as the original Argo 24" . However i can only make that claim for 26" as there is no longer much room between the tires and little to no water get's thrust upward.
Steering is a tad more sluggish than the argo tires.
I do sometimes have a branch or rock get caught between the tires so i put a think piece of metal on the tires wells.
As for mud slinging , marsh, muskeg, rock, gravel roads . The executioners remind me of argo tracks.
I use executioners on my atv, and utvs and are very saticefied with the lifespan and performance.
Lastly. My guess that smaller than 26" executioners on an frontier would not swim well due to the larger spacing. On my 6wd utv the executioners at the rear throw up a-lot of water.
On a scale of 1 to 10 over the original argo tires. I give the executioners about an 8.3 amphibious wise due to the steering lag. Land wise, 100% improvement over the original argo tires.
At 6 psi it tore up rocky hills.
If I had only known that the Kenda Executioner tires performed this good in the water, I would have chosen them over the $300 used Gator , atv tires that I drove 200 miles round trip to buy. The Gators are great in the mud, but they just creep across the water. Since the Vampire ASX tires are now no longer available, the Executioner tire will be my tire of choice for my Hustler Bigfoot.Last edited by mudbug3; 03-07-2010, 11:49 PM.Comment
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i have those Duro's on my Wild wolf. the ride isn't great, but not the worst i've driven either. they swim well, and are good in the mud. i'd rate them at 8.5 out of 10. whenever i have cash to buy tires for my wifes max, i'll probably buy another set. not sure about sizes thoughA well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.Comment
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I appreciate all the info. I goofed up and said 25x12x12 when my tires are actually 26x12x12. I was looking at some 25s to try to save a few bucks but really want to go with the 26s again. I'll have to look a little further into the Executioners and the Terra copy. Thanks.1984 Hustler 980 and some other toys that won't even swim.Comment
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cclingma,
The tire that you posted on smalltires.com sure looks like a 26 inch ,Good year, ' terra tires ' to me. On the Duro lug ag tires, the lugs of the tire taper towards the center of the tire, but on the Good year, terra tires, the lugs are the same thickness from out side to the center of the tire.Last edited by mudbug3; 03-09-2010, 12:25 PM.Comment
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yea thats them . make shure you are getting the 3 ply they allso make them in 8 and 12 play . robbie1999 max 2 18 b&s 22 tires custom . new max iv 23 k 26 i/n tires brown . ht cable promark winch . new toy 1972 attex st400 400ccjlo and she will be bad . ( the frog ) if it don't float with out you getting wet . don't bring it ! R.I.P sage rogers 4 11 09 . you can't fix stuped !!!!! raceone 3 .)Comment
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Well I'm still saving pennies to buy tires but it's very nice to know there is a nearly direct replacement for my old Terras. On the other hand, the review of the Executioners by Cobalt really has me thinking about those tires. It sure would be nice to have the mud slinging potential that the Executioner seems to have and as I'm on 26" tires like he was I trust they would swim. If the the Executioners swam anywhere near as well as the Terras I'd go that route.1984 Hustler 980 and some other toys that won't even swim.Comment
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cclingma
The people that have Argo,s, and have used the frontier tires on their machines, are well aware of how fast the Argo frontier tires are in the water. Cobalt had a set of frontier tires on his machine before switching to the Kenda Executioners ,and to say that the Executioner tires rate as an 8 ( 80 % ) in water speed when compared to a Frontier tire that rate as a 10 ( 100 % ),, that sure says a lot!Last edited by mudbug3; 03-09-2010, 08:31 PM.Comment
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Do those guys run the Executioner in the normal forward cleaning direction or backward?1984 Hustler 980 and some other toys that won't even swim.Comment
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cclingma
(QUOTE from cobalt ) ' forward like a regular atv '
' Well i believe i came out on top with what i changed on my frontier.
Even if i lost some minor amount of swimming/steering ability.
I gained quite a bit of floatation, much greater traction, more power (torque).
All in all a far better than original frontier.
I no longer bounce aorund when climbing out of water on a steep hard clay like shore line.
If your asking my opinion as to which is the better or the two. If you spend a-lot of time on water and trails that have few sticky mud holes then the original argo with the added 25% would get you there faster or perhaps 2 hours earlier to the camp (example based on 8 hour scale).
If you literally take the "all terain" part of AATV seriously then the Executioners are much better.
Since there are so many different lug patterns made for atv tires, the shape of the lug has a lot to do with its intended purpose and the ability to shed mud. A curved lug on the outer edge of an atv tire will also determine its swimming ability. An example of this is the Interco ASX , atv tire that swims reasonably well. The Kenda Executioner is more of a pure mud tire , with a slight curved outer lug, that just happens to swim better than most atv mud tires on the market.Last edited by mudbug3; 03-09-2010, 09:18 PM.Comment
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You guys know of any video showing some Executioners swiming? I'd love to see them eating up some water.1984 Hustler 980 and some other toys that won't even swim.Comment
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@cclingma:Originally posted by cclingma View Post
Both tires you mentioned above look very much like terra-jet tires.
While these work very well on a terra-jet (four wheel amphibious vehicle) They will not work all that well on a 6x6 or 8x8.
I know, i tried many matchings between machine types over the years.
I did try matching four frontier tires and two itp 589s (589's in the middle) on one of my older 1980s argo 6x6.
The idea was to fix a design flaw in most aatvs of getting high centered, centered being the operative word.
The 589's are very aggressive and will grip muck much better.
Trial produced quite favourable results. I got the mudding ability of a terra-jet and the floatation of an argo.
What it boils down to is what you intend to do with the machine. I don't care for the original argo tires as they wear out far to quickly for the environment i run them in.
Other than that i would recommend getting a set of J-wheelz for your machine.
I know that several have requested a sticky posting specifically for aatv tested tires results.
Which i believe would be a good idea.Last edited by cobalt; 03-13-2010, 04:56 PM.Comment
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