Vendetta high performance AATV tires by Mudd-Ox

[mudbug3]

Keith

Is the Vendetta a 4 ply tire like the Argo Carlisle tires ,or a 6 ply tire? The TSL Vampire is a 6 ply tire with soft side walls and rides good.

[kghills]

Very impressive video Keith, it looks as if those new tires are gonna be the King in the AATV world. I was very impressed that you were able to cross logs with a MaxIV. Logs are something my MaxIV absolutely hates. The Mud and water performance were superb. As I was watching this video I couldn't help thinking how many quads would fall victim to trying to follow my MaxIV through the swamps and mud at Doles Georgia. They couldn't call foul as long as I am running tires. I doubt that any 4x4 could follow my Max with a set of those Vendetta tires, and oh what a name, "Vendetta", as so it is!

Thanks, Dan, I figured an old Max IV owner such as yourself would pick up on the log section. They were wet and it was a light drizzle when we came to that spot. Kind of thought to myself you got to be kidding me. I even stopped, turned off the machine and asked Matt if anything actually drove over the first log. He told me the 8 wheeled machines did it so I fired up the Max to see how the Vens would do on the Max. It probably took me six attempts to get over the first big log. Driving straight on it would not want to get past the first set of tires, I could back back off every time but until I had the right angle it would hang up between the first and second every time. After the big log the other smaller ones were pretty easy as you saw in the video. Who knows, maybe your 4 wheeler buddies might like them too!

Keith

Is the Vendetta a 4 ply tire like the Argo Carlisle tires ,or a 6 ply tire? The TSL Vampire is a 6 ply tire with soft side walls and rides good.

Dave, sent a text (am I hooked up or what) to Matt this morning because there is nothing on the sidewall of the Vendetta. Matt said "we do not release that information". Must be some kind of double knot spy stuff I guess. I know the sidewall seemed compliant as I showed at the end of the video and after the ride I checked the faces of the tires, as I drove along a couple places were there was broken glass along the trail. No cuts or gouges or punctures so far.

Keith.

[Rock Doctor]

Looks like a smashing success. Nice tires, wish I could fit them on a Conquest.

RD

[mightymaxIV]

Questions Keith, are these tires going to be available to the general public? Is Matt the exclusive dealer or will Hoosier carry them and make them available? How much will a set of 6 tires on Kawasaki 12 inch steel wheels cost?

If reference to water speed, Just my opinion but I bet if those tires were aired up to 5 pounds each to get the MaxIV floating a little higher in the water and the top of the tires floating a little higher I am betting you could get a 4 1/2 to 5 mph swim speed out of a MaxIV

Reference to comments about these tires on an Argo-they would fit an Argo 6x6 Frontier HD but I doubt the they would fit an Argo 8x8. All of the Argo 8x8's have a 79 inch wheel base, if those tire sit at exactly 26 inches tall you would have less then 1/3 of an inch between tires. You can guess what would happen at trail speed, the tires would expand and rub together. You might be able to get away with running the tires at a pound each and fit them on an Argo 8x8 but it would be tight.

[mightymaxIV]

Just my opinion but I'll bet that an Argo 650 HD with a set of these Vendetta 26" tires would be king of the beast.
An Argo HD 6x6 has a 57.3 inch wheel base. Fitted with a set of Vendettas there should be about 2 1/2 inches between tires (almost perfect for climbing fallen trees).
Approximately 11 inches of ground clearance (wow 11 inches-think of what that would do for you in trail conditions), low track like PSI, excellent water speed, good horse power, reliable, soft tires for a good ride, excellent for fallen trees and swamp conditions, good in mud, and my favorite, a low range transmission with true six wheel drive, light weight, it should have excellent trail speed and a sporty comfortable ride.
I can't imagine a better all around trail machine then a 650 HD fitted with Vendetta tires.

[highrollinmopars]

Hey Kieth, Could I request a similar video of the Vendetta tires on your 980 Hustler? If they perform on the Bigfoot Hustler as well as they do on the Max 4 I will be ordering a set. Wow the water speed is what I am most impressed with. I bet a Hustler will perform just as well or better in the water with those tires. Awesome job and we all thank you for you time and efforts.

[kghills]

Dan and Tomas, Tires will be available to everyone. As far as I know Matt and his dealers will have them available soon. All testing by me was done at 3PSI. I spent the weekend testing the Vens on my 980. They are fast and stable in water. I am sitting in the Mudd-Ox Mecca parking lot now. I have hours of video that needs to be edited. Swimming and in clay based mud at Ashtabula. Hope to get home and post for you guys soon.

[MaxRules]

Sounds awesome Keith.
Did you mount the Vendettas on your Max's 12" rims, or on Matt's new 12" rims? Is the offset the same on both rims?

[kghills]

Stopped at Matt's on the way to Ashtabula. Peeled the Super Terra Grips off the Hustlers K-Lock rims and mounted up a new set of Vendettas for the weekend at Ashtabula. I sold the Super Terra Grips at Ashtabula as the Vendettas swim, ride and mud so well I would never really use them again. If you own 12" K-Locks the Vendettas mount right up and will bolt right on the Hustler 980 tall tub. Matts rims are the same right now just black. My rims were silver.

[mightymaxIV]

Hey Keith, you had 32 minutes now, wheres the video, Hummmmmm?

[kghills]

Hey Keith, you had 32 minutes now, wheres the video, Hummmmmm?

Hah Dan you sound as excited as me. Pictures first as the service is a bit slow here at home. Here is a picture of a lug on the Vendetta after running the weekend at Ashtabula. Put about a gallon and a half through the Hustler's 18HP Briggs I/C engine over the weekend. Cruzin the campgrounds, trail riding, mud testing and of course swimming.


Swimming video should upload tonight.

Keith.

[eddieb1965]

Looks like they are pretty close to the tub,any rubbing? These look like a giant Runamuk ,they were a real good tire, but wore a little to fast if used on any type of pavement.I still am not convinced these are better than the Super -Terra for longevity although they will have more floatation.If floatation is what you are after then these are it,for durability,the Super-Terras bigger lugs will last longer.I would be impressed,interested if these ever showed up for a 8 or 9" wheel.

[kghills]

As promised video of my vintage 980 Hustler fitted with Vendetta tires hitting the trails and pond at Ashtabula. The old 18HP Briggs flathead ran great all weekend. What she lacked in HP and rpm she makes up for in gearing. As you will see, the Vendettas do most of the work.
Enjoy.

A big thank you to Nicholas for doing such a great job running the video camera. Sorry I made you get out to take video so often. I probably owe you a new pair of shoes.

Keith.

[mightymaxIV]

Thanks for taking the time to film and post up the videos of your Hustler in action. First let me say that machine of yours has the fastest water speed I have ever seen with a Hustler. I also took note that the machine floated higher then almost any machine I have ever seen and that it was remarkably stable in the water.
I was very impressed with the Hustler gearing and the way you could walk through that slick mud and mud holes with out working the engine or drive train to hard. I have always been impressed with the way Hustlers walk through bad mud but that machine sets new standards. Those old Briggs flat head engines produce a lot of low end torque and are almost perfect for bad trail conditions.
I also enjoyed watching your machine climb over logs, and I noted that the extra ground clearance on your machine helped in several trail conditions that might have hung up another machine.
Over all, very impressive performance, thank you for taking the time to produce and post up this video.

The Pink Floyd was awesome!

[mudbug3]

Keith


Your Hustler 980, deep tub , Bigfoot is really fast in the water. I think it's the fastest Hustler, deep tub yet. The deep tub Hustlers aren't known for being that stable in the water when ever you have to lean them making a turn , but your Hustler sure is with the wider stance of the Vendetta tires. Jpswift1 Hustler 980 isn't the deep tub model, and with the tire wells much closer over the tires, thus being able to channel the water direction much better, Jpswift1's Hustler 980 should be even faster than your 980 in deep water. I was also impressed with the mudding ability of the new Vendetta tire. Slow throttle and low gearing looks the winning ticket. If the Vendetta tire isn't out of budget for most forum members , Matt's got a winner on his hands for sure!